Remaining OOC Schedule Before Conference Play

[RxJay]

Please just ban Stever. He really brings nothing to this board.

[Wizard of Westroads]

Please just ban Stever. He really brings nothing to this board.

You're mostly correct, but he is responsible for this:

[Xavier4036]

It's a tough life when you want to be a P6...and your conference is ranked 8th.

except that..... they aren't...
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2019/conferencerpi

oh, and with the AAC having a .056 better winning percentage than the Pac 12, it's very possible if not likely when all is said and done, in the RPI, the AAC will finish 6th....

You just chastised me for saying the Big East is a top 3 conference annually by using RPI (ya know, the system that the NCAA has used until this year) ..... and here you are using the RPI to “prove” for THIS YEAR the AAC isn’t the 8th or 9th best conference ....

So we can’t talk about the system of record (RPI) when discussing prior years in which that system was actually used.... but when it’s about the AAC anything is fair game - even a system that is no longer used.

That’s Stever Mental Gymnastics

[Xavier4036]

Stever, does this ever get tiresome for you? Making stuff up, projecting the worse-case scenario at all times for the Big East from November through March, twisting and manipulating data all to diminish the Big East - on a Big East board.... yet the conference proves you wrong time and time again.

Big East is a top 3 conference annually, gets 50-70% of the conference in the tournament, 2 out of the last 3 national champions, highest attended conference tournament championship in the country (and at MSG), a great TV contract with FOX that pays big money and nearly every game on national TV, and a group of like-minded basketball focused institutions.

Just stop with your doomsday, worst-case only scenarios for the Big East - because none of what you write here has proven to actually happen in reality over the last 5 years.

I'm sorry, but the OOC setup that has actually occurred is the worst case scenario. Having nearly everyone at 4+ losses OOC, with several of the ones with 3 or fewer not good OOC SOS...

The Big East WAS a top 3 in RPI. RPI is gone. The NET right now underrates the Big East by 5 spots vs RPI- and will be really interesting to see it end of season.... Ken Pom the Big East is 5th. That's reality.

Money. Big East paid out not even 3 million a year. Even if that gets to 5 million a year- possible- using 80/20 rule- that would be ok if P5 conferences got 25 million. But alas they aren't. P5 conferences are now making 35-50+ million.... That's reality.

I absolutely love how you want to throw out history. History isn't going to help teams make the tourney this year. Period the end.

The thing is, Stever, you are wrong. Period. End of story.

The Big East has proven to be annually a top 3 conference. The Big East gets 50-70% of the conference in the tournament annually. The Big East has 2 of the last 3 national champions. The Big East has the highest attendance in the country for their conference championship which is played at MSG. Big East has a terrific TV contract with nearly every game on national television with HUGE $$$ annual payouts for basketball only. The conference is a group of like-minded, private, basketball focused institutions. Been a great 5 years for the Big East!

The thing is Stever, your doomsday, worst case scenarios that you have inundated this board with weekly from November through March just don’t come true. Big East is likely to have a down year and we’ll still get 40-60% of the conference in the tourney .... look what is happening around the country (see Jeff Goodman tweet). If there was a year to have a down year as a conference, this is it.

Period. End of story.

[Westbrook#36]

So just to clarify, stever discredits and rips on the RPI when used to support BE, then turns around and with a straight face uses it to defend the aaaaack. Yeah, that's not completely disingenuous and hypocritical at all.

The thing is ... insert your own punchline here.

[GumbyDamnit!]

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#DropTheHammer

[redmen9194]

I don't even know why the AAC is even being mentioned. They are not our peer and I could care less about any team in their league. We should thank the basketball gods every day that our presidents were smart enough to jump out of that Frankenstein conference.

[billyfa]

It's a tough life when you want to be a P6...and your conference is ranked 8th.

except that..... they aren't...
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2019/conferencerpi

oh, and with the AAC having a .056 better winning percentage than the Pac 12, it's very possible if not likely when all is said and done, in the RPI, the AAC will finish 6th....

These rankings you are referencing have the Big East as the 3rd best conference. Pretty sure that means the OOC has been pretty good for the Big East as I said before. Spin it how you want Stever but you would even be a terrible politician.

[billyfa]

That hall maryland game is huge. If the Hall wins I think we have the potential to get as much as 6 teams in. Remember not everything is about the rpi or net.If Hall could go into conference play with wins over Kentucky Maryland Miami and Rutgers they would be in great shape. Marquette is a lock now. Creighton Butler St. Johns are a should be in. Nova is tarting to slide into bubble territory that Penn loss was devasting. Hall was on the outside looking in before the Kentucky win they should be trending up now. As for DePaul, Xavier and Georgetown they are done, they lost all their games against tournament teams and have cupcakes left. The only team that has a chance to move up is Providence, beat Texas and have a good big east and be tourney and they have a shot. Not all doom and gloom but certainly not at the level as last year. Just an average year overall, look at the PAC its a disaster we are in good shape.

The problem that the Big East has is the records. These next 2 weeks are gigantic with OOC games.
Seton Hall- Maryland
Creighton- Oklahoma
Providence- Texas
Villanova- UConn
Xavier- Missouri
Butler- Florida

If Nova and/or Xavier lose- they've got 5 losses OOC. The others would have 4 losses. And the problem is of those 6 games- only Nova is favored. The conference already has 5 more losses this year compared to last year. It's 4 away from having the most OOC losses it's ever had. You guys seem to think that Big East play is all that matters. Well it's not. OOC matters a ton. Until we start seeing the committee taking a lot of 14 and 15 loss teams- how can we take it seriouisly

Now the next two weeks are huge. The whole season is important stever. Let the season play out. We know your predictions have been wrong the since the NBE is formed. I viewed some of your older comments from previous years and they are really embarrassing. It is actually entertaining and comical at this point.

[redmen9194]

Look, never mind what Stever said - the next 3 1/2 hours are HUGE for the league. Most important 3 1/2 hours this season. If we can't win within the next 3 1/2 hours We are looking at 1 bid - maybe 2. And the bad news? None of our teams play in the next 3 1/2 hours. This could be really bad. But the AAC is poised to send 8 teams to the tourny this year so that's a plus!