Will 2016-2017 be the strongest year for the "new" Big East?

[stever20]

I think it is very reasonable for folks to think that this will be much worse than the prior worst BE year for PC in the NBE. Considering 1st 3 years, they won 10,11,10 conference games. Losing 2 best players on the team who played a ton of minutes- off a team that end of the day only went 10-8- I think to say they'll finish 6-12 or so is very reasonable. I don't think anyone is expecting a St John's cave-in like last year. But I do think it's fair to say if PC wound up 6-12 or 5-13, that would be much worse than what they have done in the NBE. I guess it's semantics because I'd view as a worse year being like 8 wins or so. You finish 4-5 games worse than you have yet- that to me is viewed as much worse.

[Whitefriar]

This board has really helped me accept what's ahead this year for the Friars. I honestly don't think they will win a game in the conference. I mean how could we? We lost players!!! I just hope that we can keep our RPI below 250 so we don't damage all the great teams in the conference too much.

I don't understand this pissing and moaning at all. I personally believe PC will finish closer to 5th or 6th but how can you blame anyone for projecting them in the 8-9 range after losing a top five pick and the conference's top scorer? No returner was an all conference player last year and the five newcomers are an unknown until the games start. That's why they're being projected near the bottom, almost universally. Very simple and understandable, but ultimately meaningless. Where do you think they should be projected?

[Hall2012]

Or the shoe could be on the opposite foot ...

PC fans on this board have really helped me accept what's ahead this year for the Friars and the BE. I honestly don't think they will lose a game in the conference. I mean how could they? They lost no one of any significance what so ever, and return a roster full of proven talent and production!!! I just hope that the rest of the conference can keep our RPI's below 200 so we don't damage this great PC team too much.

That's great but it makes no sense as there is not one PC fan on this board saying anything remotely like that. Not one! However there is post after post stating that PC will have their worst team of the NBE (reasonable) and other posts saying that they will be much worse. So once again your response makes no sense. I see the National Championship hasn't brought any new reasoning skills to the Main Line.

The same could be said about your original post. Nobody on here is saying they think PC will go winless. Not one! PC fans seem to be unreasonably offended by speculation that they're likely to have a down/rebuilding year after losing Dunn and Bentil. In a 10 team league where at least 6 teams reasonably like their NCAA tournament chances, how high do you really expect a rebuilding team to get picked? Maybe you guys will prove us all wrong, finish in the top half, and go to the sweet 16. Anything's possible, but without the black cool-aid, the rest of us want to see some proof the Friars can win without their 2 superstars before jumping on the bandwagon.

[FenwayFriar]

I have no problem with where the Friars are being projected and what is being said about them. They are arguably the most unknown team in the conference this year. They'll need to establish a go-to guy after having three guys in the last three years with Sam Cassell sized balls in Cotton, Henton, and Dunn. Cartwright will have a lot on his shoulders trying find guys in their best position to score. Besides Bullock, no one else has really proven they can score consistently. Lindsey will need to step up big as a leader on the team. So overall a lot of questions going into the year. Someone's gotta be ranked in the bottom third of the conference and this year the Friars will need to continue to prove people wrong, as they have during the entire Cooley era. They've got a lot to prove but count me as being very excited about this year and the years to come with our new practice facility.

[FriarJ]

I would think bottom quarter would be where most expect us to finish, which has been the case in 3 out of the 4 years on this board. It just strikes us as funny as almost no one on this board knows anything about the current Friar squad except they lost Dunn and Bentil, that's all anybody talks about just like every other year, I'm sure that's why we are sensitive because it's the same tune every year from the same posters, who never admit they were wrong and come right back the next year with the exact same predictions. For some reason on this board and it doesn't seem to apply to other schools PC is always judged by what they lost and never by what they have.

Examples: You lost Marshawn Brooks and Vincent Council; expect a down year, You lost Bryce Cotton and Kadeem Batts; they will be worse, You lost Henton, Harris, Derosiers, Chuckwu; expect a down year. You lost Dunn and Bentil; this year should be the year this board is right. My expectations are for zero wins in conference

[Westbrook#36]

Or the shoe could be on the opposite foot ...

PC fans on this board have really helped me accept what's ahead this year for the Friars and the BE. I honestly don't think they will lose a game in the conference. I mean how could they? They lost no one of any significance what so ever, and return a roster full of proven talent and production!!! I just hope that the rest of the conference can keep our RPI's below 200 so we don't damage this great PC team too much.

That's great but it makes no sense as there is not one PC fan on this board saying anything remotely like that. Not one! However there is post after post stating that PC will have their worst team of the NBE (reasonable) and other posts saying that they will be much worse. So once again your response makes no sense. I see the National Championship hasn't brought any new reasoning skills to the Main Line.

Neither does your rant, because no one said the Friars would go winless or anything remotely close to that either. But if 1 or 2 posts by some clueless posters are all that take for you to go off, maybe reasoning isn't one of your best skill sets. I won't add a out of line gratuitous school insult like some posters.

[FriarJ]

Or the shoe could be on the opposite foot ...

PC fans on this board have really helped me accept what's ahead this year for the Friars and the BE. I honestly don't think they will lose a game in the conference. I mean how could they? They lost no one of any significance what so ever, and return a roster full of proven talent and production!!! I just hope that the rest of the conference can keep our RPI's below 200 so we don't damage this great PC team too much.

That's great but it makes no sense as there is not one PC fan on this board saying anything remotely like that. Not one! However there is post after post stating that PC will have their worst team of the NBE (reasonable) and other posts saying that they will be much worse. So once again your response makes no sense. I see the National Championship hasn't brought any new reasoning skills to the Main Line.

Neither does your rant, because no one said the Friars would go winless or anything remotely close to that either. But if 1 or 2 posts by some clueless posters are all that take for you to go off, maybe reasoning isn't one of your best skill sets. I won't add a out of line gratuitous school insult like some posters.

I want to add, Congrats on the NC, hardest I ever rooted for a non PC squad since 85. I hope you go winless with us.

[Hall2012]

Yup, only Providence has ever been underrated on this board because we all hate them. They're the only school that gets judged on who they lose and not who they gain.

[hortle]

I would think bottom quarter would be where most expect us to finish, which has been the case in 3 out of the 4 years on this board. It just strikes us as funny as almost no one on this board knows anything about the current Friar squad except they lost Dunn and Bentil, that's all anybody talks about just like every other year, I'm sure that's why we are sensitive because it's the same tune every year from the same posters, who never admit they were wrong and come right back the next year with the exact same predictions. For some reason on this board and it doesn't seem to apply to other schools PC is always judged by what they lost and never by what they have.

Examples: You lost Marshawn Brooks and Vincent Council; expect a down year, You lost Bryce Cotton and Kadeem Batts; they will be worse, You lost Henton, Harris, Derosiers, Chuckwu; expect a down year. You lost Dunn and Bentil; this year should be the year this board is right. My expectations are for zero wins in conference

soooo salty dude, is your blood pressure high? If I was your doctor I would recommend you stay away from internet message boards

no, this board doesn't judge PC differently, that is an incredibly delusional comment to make. Everyone thinks their newcomers are going to be worldbeaters before the preseason starts.

[hortle]

also, if basically everyone (on this board, on the internet, in the basketball media sphere at-large) is picking providence to finish in the same range, and you're the only one here crying about it, who looks to be more in the wrong? Do you want Westbrook or these other repeated offenders of dissing on PC to prostrate themselves before you? Not really sure why you have to be so venomous about this