NBA Draft

[NovaBall]

Hart could probably go from borderline first rounder to mid-first rounder. But at the end of the day, does it matter if you are taken 27 or 16?

The guy I really want to return is Whitehead. First, he is a guy that can go from borderline first round to the top 10. Second, if he returns, Seton Hall could be really good and he could be one of those household name players next year.

The second guy I would like to see return is Bentil. I lean towards thinking that Providence is going to struggle with or without Bentil. But if Bentil returns then who knows? Cartwright is solid, and the other guys are athletic and experienced, so maybe they could be allright if he returns. If not it is serious rebuilding.

I am not so concerned about Hart returning. Of course I would love to see him back, but if he can go first round then go get paid and Jay can use that to recruit. Jenkins is the guy who I think Nova benefits the most from returning. Hart is probably the better NBA prospect over Jenkins, but as mentioned in another post, Jenkins hit 45% of his threes from Feb onward, and led the entire nation in 3's made from that point. And he did so from way downtown. That's an elite college skill. And Nova has Paschall and Bridges to slip into that big/wing guard defensive specialist drive cut and rebound type position, so losing Hart isn't the end of the world (sort of how HArt was able to step right in for Hilliard last year, and Hilliard step in for James Bell the year prior).


I don't think anybody else who put their name in is a real threat to leave. I can't see Blueitt or Watson getting drafted.

[FriarJ]

I hope he stays for another year, but this kid at his size is simply a dominate College player.
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[hoyahooligan]

IMO of the ones who haven't hired agents I think Bentil and Hart should jump while everyone else should come back. Obviously best for the league for everyone to return but for their draft prospects I think now is the time to strike for those two. Don't see either' stock climbing higher with the higher level of attention of opposition defenses next year.

Bentil and Hart definitely can increase their stock. If Bentil can become a better outside shooter he has a role in the league as a stretch 4. Hart is going to be the go-to guy this year. He could boost his stock into being a lock for the 1st round. I didn't think Doug McDermott could increase his stock any higher after his junior year, especially with the change in competition from Valley to BE. But he did. Neither of those guys are McDermott, but there's definitely room for improvement.

I think Bentil is already a very good outside shooter but that with out Dunn he'll be the defense's only focus.

Hart's stock isn't likely to get higher than coming off a national championship. If he can get a first round guarantee he should definitely take it. He'd be the go to guy next year but that means also the primary guy defenses will focus on.

I think McDermott would've been a lottery pick if he came out after his junior year too. I don't think his stock really changed.

[mel ott]

IMO of the ones who haven't hired agents I think Bentil and Hart should jump while everyone else should come back. Obviously best for the league for everyone to return but for their draft prospects I think now is the time to strike for those two. Don't see either' stock climbing higher with the higher level of attention of opposition defenses next year.

Bentil and Hart definitely can increase their stock. If Bentil can become a better outside shooter he has a role in the league as a stretch 4. Hart is going to be the go-to guy this year. He could boost his stock into being a lock for the 1st round. I didn't think Doug McDermott could increase his stock any higher after his junior year, especially with the change in competition from Valley to BE. But he did. Neither of those guys are McDermott, but there's definitely room for improvement.

I think Bentil is already a very good outside shooter but that with out Dunn he'll be the defense's only focus.

Hart's stock isn't likely to get higher than coming off a national championship. If he can get a first round guarantee he should definitely take it. He'd be the go to guy next year but that means also the primary guy defenses will focus on.

I think McDermott would've been a lottery pick if he came out after his junior year too. I don't think his stock really changed.

Disagree. McDermott was not a lottery pick. We tended to read/hear about that sort of thing. His stock went up by expanding what he had done the previous years and, as importantly, who he was doing it against his senior year.

[hortle]

Doug improved his stock by about 10 spots. Junior year he was sitting in the 20-27 range, senior year in the 9-18 range. He made a pretty penny by coming back. If Hart comes back and shoots well from deep and shows NBA range, he could move up as well but who knows how high.

Those are two big ifs, though. If he doesn't think he can come back and do those things next year, then its in his best interest to enter the league now.

[NovaBall]

Kyle Lowry could have come back for his junior year, been the man on the team, and maybe turned a late first round position into a first half of the draft position. Or maybe he would have had a bad attitude trying to be the man and slipped off the radar.

Turned out fine for him as he has started the last two all star games at PG.

Turned out fine for Nova as they took a step back in 2007, but Kyle leaving opened up a spot for a guy named Scottie Reynolds who had just backed out of the Oklahoma commitment after Kelvin Sampson left for Indiana, and Nova was able to develop the next star in the making.


That's also why I'm not too hung up on Hart. I love his game, I would gladly take him back, but Bridges and Paschall deserve minutes too, and they could be very good in their own right.

[Jet915]

NBA draft commentary from NBC.

Josh Hart and Kris Jenkins, Villanova: Prior to this season, I would’ve said that there was no way that these two would be declaring for the draft. While Jenkins seems to be a situation where he’s just trying to get an answer on what he needs to do to get drafted in 2017, Hart may actually have a chance to be a first round pick this season. He’s a tweener, but tweeners that can do a lot of different things and defend multiple positions — Kawhi Leonard, Draymond Green, etc. — are all the rage these days. Like both of those guys coming out of college, Hart is tough, he’s versatile, he defends, he rebounds and he cannot shoot. I wouldn’t be shocked if someone gave him a promise late in the first round or early in the second round, and that may be enough to pull him out of school, and that would be a massive blow for a Villanova team that’s currently projected in our top five.

Mo Watson, Creighton: I’m not sure people realize just how good Watson was last season. There’s an argument to be made that he was the best point guard in the Big East not named Kris Dunn. And if he returns, he’ll be paired in a back court with Kansas State transfer Marcus Foster, who was one of the best off-guards in the Big 12 before his falling out with Bruce Weber. That duo would have a strong argument as the best back court in college basketball, and it’s the reason that we have the Bluejays sitting in the first spot outside the top 25 right now.

Isaiah Whitehead, Seton Hall: Whitehead played such a huge role in Seton Hall’s return to the NCAA tournament last season, and the good news is that he’s nowhere near a lock to get picked in the first round. That also may not be enough to keep him from signing with an agent. The Pirates have a shot at returning to the dance if he’s back. If he’s not, they’re not.

Ben Bentil, Providence: Bentil was one of the best players in all of college basketball last season, but his Friars really struggled down the stretch of the season. With Kris Dunn off to the NBA, it’s hard to see Providence reaching the NCAA tournament either way, but if Bentil does return, he may pop up on a few preseason all-american teams.

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2016/04/27/nba-draft-early-entry-the-most-influential-testing-the-water-decisions/

[Jet915]

Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN
Some more guys who have not been invited to combine: V.J. Beachem, Kaleb Tarczewski, Maurice Watson, Trevon Bluiett, Peter Jok.

[Jet915]

Not good news for Seton Hall.

Adam Zagoria
Adam Zagoria – ‏@AdamZagoria

Several NBA teams have Seton Hall's @IsaiahW_15 in the 20-30 range on their board. Was invited to Combine

[admin]

Reports indicate that Whitehead performed well the past couple of days and likely moved himself up (or onto) draft boards.