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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby XUFan09 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:06 am

anXUfan wrote:Does anyone really use the BPI? It's supposed to be quantitative, so does Vegas use it to predict winners? Does it provide any kind of insight that other ranking systems don't?


It tries to account for players being out due to injury. An individual player's contribution is tricky to quantify, so my initial reaction is to take it with a grain of salt.

ESPN promotes BPI because it's their metric, so they'll act like its a standard, whether it is or not. How much any Committee member uses it is another question. I'd wager that any member delving significantly into advanced metrics would devote a lot more time to Kenpom, Sagarin, or the composite Massey ratings.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby herodotus » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:15 am

XUFan09 wrote:
anXUfan wrote:Does anyone really use the BPI? It's supposed to be quantitative, so does Vegas use it to predict winners? Does it provide any kind of insight that other ranking systems don't?


It tries to account for players being out due to injury. An individual player's contribution is tricky to quantify, so my initial reaction is to take it with a grain of salt.

ESPN promotes BPI because it's their metric, so they'll act like its a standard, whether it is or not. How much any Committee member uses it is another question. I'd wager that any member delving significantly into advanced metrics would devote a lot more time to Kenpom, Sagarin, or the composite Massey ratings.


Bpi seems to fall fairly close to Kenpom, so they might be similar in their approach. Kenpom likes Seton Hall, and Butler, but not Providence. Rpi likes Providence, but doesn't like Butler. I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby XUFan09 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:43 am

herodotus wrote:
XUFan09 wrote:
anXUfan wrote:Does anyone really use the BPI? It's supposed to be quantitative, so does Vegas use it to predict winners? Does it provide any kind of insight that other ranking systems don't?


It tries to account for players being out due to injury. An individual player's contribution is tricky to quantify, so my initial reaction is to take it with a grain of salt.

ESPN promotes BPI because it's their metric, so they'll act like its a standard, whether it is or not. How much any Committee member uses it is another question. I'd wager that any member delving significantly into advanced metrics would devote a lot more time to Kenpom, Sagarin, or the composite Massey ratings.


Bpi seems to fall fairly close to Kenpom, so they might be similar in their approach. Kenpom likes Seton Hall, and Butler, but not Providence. Rpi likes Providence, but doesn't like Butler. I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks.


Yeah, they are similar. That's because all the metrics are using the same overall approach. BPI is probably just less popular.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Dew » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:01 pm

Dayton about to play themselves out of the dance entirely. Flyers getting rocked at home by URI so far.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby ecasadoSBU » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:53 pm

Dew wrote:Dayton about to play themselves out of the dance entirely. Flyers getting rocked at home by URI so far.


Dayton is a lock
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Jet915 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:43 pm

ecasadoSBU wrote:
Dew wrote:Dayton about to play themselves out of the dance entirely. Flyers getting rocked at home by URI so far.


Dayton is a lock


I agree but their seed line seems to be droppin weekly....
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby BEX » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:03 pm

ecasadoSBU wrote:
Dew wrote:Dayton about to play themselves out of the dance entirely. Flyers getting rocked at home by URI so far.


Dayton is a lock



I would "unlock" them. Scored 14 @ maybe one of the worst teams in the nation in the first half, then got hammered by URI's 2nd team @ home. Dumpster fire over there.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby admin » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:04 pm

Jet915 wrote:
ecasadoSBU wrote:
Dew wrote:Dayton about to play themselves out of the dance entirely. Flyers getting rocked at home by URI so far.


Dayton is a lock


I agree but their seed line seems to be droppin weekly....

I think Dayton loses their next 2 games. If they do and then lose early in the A10 tournament they have no right to an at large.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby ecasadoSBU » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:13 pm

BEX wrote:
ecasadoSBU wrote:
Dew wrote:Dayton about to play themselves out of the dance entirely. Flyers getting rocked at home by URI so far.


Dayton is a lock



I would "unlock" them. Scored 14 @ maybe one of the worst teams in the nation in the first half, then got hammered by URI's 2nd team @ home. Dumpster fire over there.
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I think Dayton just wants to play at home again in the NCAA tourney.


DAYTON is a LOCK my friend. I have no doubts. They can lose their next three games and still will be a lock. I think a 22-9* (they are 22-6 right now) team from the A-10 I think is deserving of a bid
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby BEX » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:56 pm

That would involve losing 6 of their last 7 to mostly lousy teams. Could be close.
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