2016-17 Season how good will the Big East be?

[PhillyPirate]

If the current core stays at SHU next year they should compete with X and Nova for the top spot. They only lose Derrick Gordon, have K-State pg Jevon Thomas coming in and top 100 recruit Myles Powell who is billed as the best shooter in his class. They are still recruiting for some top 100-150 guys, if anyone leaves I think it would be end of roster guys.

Whitehead made it clear he wants to go pro but would only leave if hes a first round pick. Think he has some ways to go unless he continues to the play the level he has been at then it could be interesting. The time for underclassman to withdrawn their name for the draft is longer now and you can get evaluated from pros who give their honest opinion. I think that helps. Delgado could actually be more of a risk to leave. I dont know his familys situation but he could always play professionally in the DR.

[stever20]

It's kind of crazy to talk about this because we don't know the full recruiting situation(spring recruiting is becoming bigger and bigger), the transfer situation(both regular and graduate transfers), and the coaching situation. Oh and the NBA situation. Spring has become more important today than it ever has before.

[MUBoxer]

If Henry stays Marquette finishes second next year. If he leaves I'm gonna say 4th.

Any word on Brunson or Whitehead leaving? They're the only other players who could also get drafted based almost entirely on hype.

[scoscox]

Am I the only one thoroughly unimpressed by Brunson? I think he's looked very average. He looks fairly slow and his handle isn't that tight. I don't think he's anywhere near being good enough to even think about the NBA.

[Phillycat]

Am I the only one thoroughly unimpressed by Brunson? I think he's looked very average. He looks fairly slow and his handle isn't that tight. I don't think he's anywhere near being good enough to even think about the NBA.

He looked pretty damn good against X despite playing with the stomach bug... He's the fifth scoring option on this team. Next year is his year with Arch gone.

[scoscox]

Am I the only one thoroughly unimpressed by Brunson? I think he's looked very average. He looks fairly slow and his handle isn't that tight. I don't think he's anywhere near being good enough to even think about the NBA.

He looked pretty damn good against X despite playing with the stomach bug... He's the fifth scoring option on this team. Next year is his year with Arch gone.

Not really, but a lot of other guys did play out of their minds. He's had much better games, but I just mean relative to the hype. He's been a good freshman, but no way is that dude a can't miss NBA prospect.

[MUBoxer]

Players of his hype get drafted solely out of potential. Other McDonald's all Americans have done less and gotten drafted.

[gtmoBlue]

We lose Groselle and Milliken but have everyone else back. Add Marcus Foster who was a All-Big XII player and Justin Patton, a top 50 center who is redshirting to add weight and I think most Creighton fans will be really disappointed if we don't make the NCAAs next year.

Creighton only has 1 recruit for 2016 (so far), but he is a dynamic PG out of NC. Davion Mintz, 6-4, 190 lb. PG from No. Mecklinburg HS. He was underrecruited and underranked imo. Gonna get minutes behind Mo.

[aughnanure]

If Henry stays Marquette finishes second next year. If he leaves I'm gonna say 4th.

As a Marquette fan as well, this is pretty optimistic. Hard to see Xavier not being equal or the improved or Nova falling much (losing just Farr, Arci, Ochefu really). Nova may be a little short, but they'll still have the guards and theyve done this before. Seton Hall loses nobody. Georgetown loses DSR and some size with Hayes but brings back everyone else and those guards and Govan should take another step forward. Providence will fall back, sure...but not that far and probably a lot less than people are assuming with no Dunn. I don't see Bentil going, and they'll find a way to make up the points lost from Dunn. Creighton will be better again, probably much better with the lack of Srs. they lose and that Patton kid coming. Hell, the more I think of it, this league looks like it will be considerably better and deeper next year. Really only Providence and Nova look to slip a bit - but not out of NCAA tourney discussion. Butler loses more than most and will need a year to regroup around their incoming class - but that's the only team I can see taking a major step back.

God, the more I think of it, who is not going to be in the NCAA tourney discussion? The league race next year is going to be brutal. Nova-Xavier-GTown-Hall-Marq-Creighton-Prov could all make the tourney with a good OOC showing.

Marquette's is the most in limbo with Henry and having no PF replacement as of yet. I could see top 4 with Henry. I think it would be a tight a race and sure we could be #2, but could just as easily see a 4 or 5 finish (with an NCAA birth and even being ranked in spurts throughout the year). The other teams will still have much more experience, and successful experience at that. We had one really good game against Butler, but have been frustrating as hell to watch in so many other games. I'd need to see more of that to proclaim a fight for supremacy in the BE next year.

Without Henry, we'd be fighting for 4-7 probably depending on the JUCO-Transfer PF in the spring we'll HAVE to get. Top 40 PG Markus Howard could be a huge get for us but that wont fix our size. Without HE, we are really relying on our Fr/So guards making big strides. Shooting should improve regardless with Hauser coming in, Roswey being eligible, and maybe Howard here. It will be nice having some upperclassmen guards on the team for the first time in forever next year though with Duane and Johnson.

[MUBoxer]

If Henry stays Marquette finishes second next year. If he leaves I'm gonna say 4th.

As a Marquette fan as well, this is pretty optimistic. Hard to see Xavier not being equal or the improved or Nova falling much (losing just Farr, Arci, Ochefu really). Nova may be a little short, but they'll still have the guards and theyve done this before. Seton Hall loses nobody. Georgetown loses DSR and some size with Hayes but brings back everyone else and those guards and Govan should take another step forward. Providence will fall back, sure...but not that far and probably a lot less than people are assuming with no Dunn. I don't see Bentil going, and they'll find a way to make up the points lost from Dunn. Creighton will be better again, probably much better with the lack of Srs. they lose and that Patton kid coming. Hell, the more I think of it, this league looks like it will be considerably better and deeper next year. Really only Providence and Nova look to slip a bit - but not out of NCAA tourney discussion. Butler loses more than most and will need a year to regroup around their incoming class - but that's the only team I can see taking a major step back.

God, the more I think of it, who is not going to be in the NCAA tourney discussion? The league race next year is going to be brutal. Nova-Xavier-GTown-Hall-Marq-Creighton-Prov could all make the tourney with a good OOC showing.

Marquette's is the most in limbo with Henry and having no PF replacement as of yet. I could see top 4 with Henry. I think it would be a tight a race and sure we could be #2, but could just as easily see a 4 or 5 finish (with an NCAA birth and even being ranked in spurts throughout the year). The other teams will still have much more experience, and successful experience at that. We had one really good game against Butler, but have been frustrating as hell to watch in so many other games. I'd need to see more of that to proclaim a fight for supremacy in the BE next year.

Without Henry, we'd be fighting for 4-7 probably depending on the JUCO-Transfer PF in the spring we'll HAVE to get. Top 40 PG Markus Howard could be a huge get for us but that wont fix our size. Without HE, we are really relying on our Fr/So guards making big strides. Shooting should improve regardless with Hauser coming in, Roswey being eligible, and maybe Howard here. It will be nice having some upperclassmen guards on the team for the first time in forever next year though with Duane and Johnson.

The reason I think of our returning guys as more experienced than your average sophomore becoming a junior is because our guys are playing many more key minutes and will be playing those same key minutes next year. I get it's a lofty expectation but I stand by it. I also think you need to figure if Henry were to come back he'd go from being a great freshman to being a POY candidate next year... Providence and Creighton will tell you never underestimate the influence someone like that can have on your team.