Fire Leitao and/or DePaul Athletic Director??

[NovaBall]

South Carolina, Florida state and penn state are not good teams. Those are bad losses. Maybe dropping one or two would be okay, but they dropped all 3 and two were blowouts, and looked bad against western Michigan.

It is fair to be concerned about the lack of either judgment or effort in Chicago right now. They are hurting the league and it does not appear they are serious about improving. Their only positive is the new arena, which is years away from being utilized.

[NovaBall]

Thank you, RedStorm. Could not have stated it any better.

Until St. John's and DePaul reach new heights, the Big East will not be recognized, as a conference, on the same level as the P5. Nova can be great every year but that will not help OUR cause.

The TV networks WANT New York and Chicago big-time.....for a future TV contract!

Nova and Georgetown are in philly and DC. Let's not go acting like they are in some backwards town. And the east coast stronghold is what makes the big east what it is.

Chicago is a nice bonus market. But the lifeblood of the big east has always been DC through philly up to the garden.

Now that's not saying I don't want a Chicago presence. I definitely would like a quality team in Chicago that attracts attention, makes the news, draws fans, etc... But that obviously is not going to happen for a long time. And the big east will still be fine.

[stever20]

South Carolina, Florida state and penn state are not good teams. Those are bad losses. Maybe dropping one or two would be okay, but they dropped all 3 and two were blowouts, and looked bad against western Michigan.

It is fair to be concerned about the lack of either judgment or effort in Chicago right now. They are hurting the league and it does not appear they are serious about improving. Their only positive is the new arena, which is years away from being utilized.

Penn St yes. South Carolina and FSU- no way. Both are projected NCAA tourney teams. Neither one of those is a bad loss.

[MUBoxer]

Thank you, RedStorm. Could not have stated it any better.

Until St. John's and DePaul reach new heights, the Big East will not be recognized, as a conference, on the same level as the P5. Nova can be great every year but that will not help OUR cause.

The TV networks WANT New York and Chicago big-time.....for a future TV contract!

Nova and Georgetown are in philly and DC. Let's not go acting like they are in some backwards town. And the east coast stronghold is what makes the big east what it is.

Chicago is a nice bonus market. But the lifeblood of the big east has always been DC through philly up to the garden.

Now that's not saying I don't want a Chicago presence. I definitely would like a quality team in Chicago that attracts attention, makes the news, draws fans, etc... But that obviously is not going to happen for a long time. And the big east will still be fine.

You way underestimate the drop off in size between the largest catholic school in the country and GTown and Nova. I agree they aren't backwayrd small towns though. I also think you underestimate what having a real BE presence in Chicago would mean. Giving us shots at recruits like Parker, Davis, Okafor, Rose. Guys that had DePaul on their finals as a curtesy but not seriously might actually start consider coming to the BE.

[DemonLS]

The Big East will be fine.....but not reach its highest potential.....if fine is good enough for you.....its not good enough for me.

I believe Leitao was hired to be here for the new arena, which is a few years away. I also believe Leitao will be able to recruit the 4-5 star recruits that DePaul needs to start picking up. And getting those players will take $$$$.

He did recruit Wilson Chandler (even though he left after he recruited him so he never played for Leitao) and Dorrell Wright, who chose the NBA instead of DePaul at the very last minute.

Also, I do believe we may need to fire the entire Athletic Department and start over....if things do not change within the next year or so.

[NovaBall]

We are getting off track here, but 1. I'm not underestimatin how good it will be to have a Chicago presence. I would love DePaul to be a college hoops anchor in the Midwest; but at the same time (2) it is just as important that we maintain our presence as the premier team in the northeast corridor.

It's not even real a debate or argument. We need all of our teams to do well. But this idea that we can have nova tank and the league would be fine is false. Georgetown, nova and St. John are very important to the success of the league. And for fifteen yrs the league has been fine with DePaul being DePaul (although the league would be better if DePaul would follow Georgetown or nova's lead and hire a real coach)

[NovaBall]

The Big East will be fine.....but not reach its highest potential.....if fine is good enough for you.....its not good enough for me.

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What does this even mean?

I, the one saying I want DePaul to start putting more effort into their program to help the big east grow. You are the one saying that have Dave Leitao as a warm body on the sidelines of an annual 18 loss season with no fans in the stands is something we should not be allowed to question.

You are the one accepting mediocrity.

[MUBoxer]

We are getting off track here, but 1. I'm not underestimatin how good it will be to have a Chicago presence. I would love DePaul to be a college hoops anchor in the Midwest; but at the same time (2) it is just as important that we maintain our presence as the premier team in the northeast corridor.

It's not even real a debate or argument. We need all of our teams to do well. But this idea that we can have nova tank and the league would be fine is false. Georgetown, nova and St. John are very important to the success of the league. And for fifteen yrs the league has been fine with DePaul being DePaul (although the league would be better if DePaul would follow Georgetown or nova's lead and hire a real coach)

See that's where I think you're too ingrained in this old Big East idea. If Marquette and DePaul looked like they did in the 70s/early 80s and GTown and Nova fell flat the big east would be just as fine as they are now. And yes for 10 years the leagues been fine without DePaul (where'd you get 15? They joined in 05 and its 2015) but the same could be said about St. John's which you so avidly vouche for despite their struggles.

[NovaBall]

I disagree. The big east core is the primary tenant in the northeast. The big ten is the primary tenant in the Midwest. We need to remain the primary conference in the northeast, and the better we are in the Midwest is a bonus. And that's not a slight to the Midwest teams as they are fantastic additions to the league. But we need to own that amtrak rail from DC up to msg. But cincinatti, Indianapolis, Omaha and Milwaukee and a Chicago program with no fans in the seats are not the reason we have a half billion dollar media rights deal.

But this is off track as the issue is our biggest media market in the Midwest isn't trying. They made a very suspect hire and he is proving to be terrible.

[NJRedman]

We are getting off track here, but 1. I'm not underestimatin how good it will be to have a Chicago presence. I would love DePaul to be a college hoops anchor in the Midwest; but at the same time (2) it is just as important that we maintain our presence as the premier team in the northeast corridor.

It's not even real a debate or argument. We need all of our teams to do well. But this idea that we can have nova tank and the league would be fine is false. Georgetown, nova and St. John are very important to the success of the league. And for fifteen yrs the league has been fine with DePaul being DePaul (although the league would be better if DePaul would follow Georgetown or nova's lead and hire a real coach)

See that's where I think you're too ingrained in this old Big East idea. If Marquette and DePaul looked like they did in the 70s/early 80s and GTown and Nova fell flat the big east would be just as fine as they are now. And yes for 10 years the leagues been fine without DePaul (where'd you get 15? They joined in 05 and its 2015) but the same could be said about St. John's which you so avidly vouche for despite their struggles.

We've been better than DePaul since they joined the league.