Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

[adoraz]

Georgetown had an incredible OOC resume 2 years ago. 3 OOC wins vs Kansas St, VCU, and Michigan St. Pretty much going in, folks thought Georgetown beat DePaul and Creighton, they would be in the tourney pretty easily. So wouldn't say the committee was exactly easy on Georgetown....

I wouldn't say that we've seen that the committee clearly views the Big East in the same light as other power conferences. At all. PC would provide an extremely interesting test case if they lose in the BET QF.

Okay, here are the facts (since you don't like using them):

Georgetown was one of the first 4 teams out.
They finished with a 66 RPI.
They lost to DePaul in the first round of the BE tournament (a bad loss).

Nobody thought they were the first 4 out. Nobody. Only the selection committee said this afterwards.

Now, you said they needed to beat Creighton to get in which doesn't line up with the facts. Prove that they needed to beat Creighton to get in.

It would have been interesting. Going into the BET, the thought around totally was that a Georgetown win over Creighton gets them in. Would the committee have put them in with a win over DePaul/loss to Creighton? It's possible, but there again, I look at what we've seen as the committee more rewarding good wins than penalizing bad losses. You can't prove that Georgetown could have lost to Creighton and still gotten in.... We just don't know.

How about this, Stever. A simple yes or no question:

Did you find Georgetown, being one of the first 4 out, surprisingly high?

If you say no, you're disagreeing with everyone else. If you say yes, then you're admitting that Georgetown was thought higher by the committee than anyone else.

Georgetown being one of the first 4 out was probably the biggest shocker by the selection committee that year.

[DudeAnon]

Whats the highest seed an AAC team will get this year? I think last year Cincy had an 8 or 9.

[stever20]

Whats the highest seed an AAC team will get this year? I think last year Cincy had an 8 or 9.

I think if Cincy wins it all they could get like a 7. They could add UConn, Temple, and Tulsa- 3 close to top 50 teams if not actually in top 50.

[adoraz]

Cincy should be a lock. They were the 1 AAC team I wanted to do well since it helps two teams in the Big East.

With how poorly the AAC has been represented the last 2 years by the selection committee you never know, but I'd still bet on Cincy being a lock.

[stever20]

Not really after you thought about it. The committee values OOC play a LOT. Georgetown had a GREAT OOC schedule that year.... Also quite frankly, the committee at that point could have been trying to send a message to teams to schedule better w/o impacting the tourney.

[adoraz]

Not really after you thought about it. The committee values OOC play a LOT. Georgetown had a GREAT OOC schedule that year.... Also quite frankly, the committee at that point could have been trying to send a message to teams to schedule better w/o impacting the tourney.

I'm done here.

[stever20]

Cincy should be a lock. They were the 1 AAC team I wanted to do well since it helps two teams in the Big East.

With how poorly the AAC has been represented the last 2 years by the selection committee you never know, but I'd still bet on Cincy being a lock.

The difference this year is in Ken Pom. the league is much better there than they were last year. Also most of the teams did ok OOC schedule. Temple is the one team that I think will get screwed. But Cincy, UConn(if they beat Cincy in the tourney), and Tulsa- I think look pretty decent right now.

[JohnW22]

Cincy should be a lock. They were the 1 AAC team I wanted to do well since it helps two teams in the Big East.

With how poorly the AAC has been represented the last 2 years by the selection committee you never know, but I'd still bet on Cincy being a lock.

The difference this year is in Ken Pom. the league is much better there than they were last year. Also most of the teams did ok OOC schedule. Temple is the one team that I think will get screwed. But Cincy, UConn(if they beat Cincy in the tourney), and Tulsa- I think look pretty decent right now.

Cincinnati's best wins out of conference are to two bubble teams. They had 2/3 big OOC games at home and blew all 3. UCONN had a good win over Texas and that's it... Michigan win was nice too. Tulsa had the win over Wichita State who might not even make the tournament. Temple went under 500. SMU did well. It's not even worth talking about the rest of that conference.

[stever20]

Cincy should be a lock. They were the 1 AAC team I wanted to do well since it helps two teams in the Big East.

With how poorly the AAC has been represented the last 2 years by the selection committee you never know, but I'd still bet on Cincy being a lock.

The difference this year is in Ken Pom. the league is much better there than they were last year. Also most of the teams did ok OOC schedule. Temple is the one team that I think will get screwed. But Cincy, UConn(if they beat Cincy in the tourney), and Tulsa- I think look pretty decent right now.

Cincinnati's best wins out of conference are to two bubble teams. They had 2/3 big OOC games at home and blew all 3. UCONN had a good win over Texas and that's it... Michigan win was nice too. Tulsa had the win over Wichita State who might not even make the tournament. Temple went under 500. SMU did well. It's not even worth talking about the rest of that conference.

Cincy has wins over GW, VCU OOC- with both of them away from home. They have 3 RPI top 50 wins, and 7 RPI top 100 wins. #76 SOS right now.
UConn has wins over Michigan, Ohio St, and Texas OOC. They have 3 RPI top 50 wins, and 6 RPI top 100 wins. #52 SOS right now.
Tulsa has win over Wichita St. They have 3 RPI top 50 wins, and 8 RPI top 100 wins. #59 SOS right now.
even Temple, which I think is DOA, has 4 top 50 wins, and 7 top 100 wins. and the #53 SOS right now.

Folks here said that you have to count the entire schedule, which is why it was fine for big East teams to schedule soft OOC. So that applies to the Big East, but you only look OOC for the AAC then? How is that fair?

[stever20]

I think there is 1 and only 1 path for the AAC to only get 1 team. If Cincy wins the tourney.

Even there, UConn is possible, AND if Tulsa makes the final, they would quite probably get in.

You say what if UConn wins the tourney and Tulsa doesn't make the final? I think Cincy would have a MUCH greater shot of getting in with that scenario than vice versa.