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Postby ThrowDownDBrown » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:49 am

I really don't know why any Marquette fans are supportive of Wojo at this point. He's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be a mediocre head coach. For as much money as Marquette spends and all the resources they have, it's pretty embarrassing to have 0 NCAA tourney wins in the last 5 and soon to be 6 years. The sooner they get rid of Wojo, the sooner they'll be able to get back to actually winning games in March.
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Postby Xudash » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:17 am

Hall2012 wrote:
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kayako wrote:Goodman took a wild stab a few days ago at the upcoming coaching carousel: https://watchstadium.com/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-cheat-sheet-for-2020-02-27-2020/

I'd say go after the only guy that can challenge Jay Wright as the best coach in the conference (Rick Pitino).


I love that idea! Imagine the marketing spike for the conference. That assumes that you can hose down and clean up his image (good luck with that).

Goodman certainly took a shot at the Seton Hall job.

As far as tonight‘s game goes, will the Marquette fan base outnumber DePaul fans at home?


I'm actually not worried about Willard leaving this season. Location (mid atlantic/northeast) is apparently very important to him and while SHU may not be the easiest job in the world...there aren't exactly a lot of better ones in his desired area. The Maryland job is probably the only one that I'd really be worried about him leaving for, but it doesn't look like that one's coming available this year.


I like Willard and I disagree with Goodman's take. SHU's potential is substantial.
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Re: (1) Tuesday Game. MU@ DePaul

Postby Hall2012 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:30 am

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I like Willard and I disagree with Goodman's take. SHU's potential is substantial.


I agree there's potential to continue improving, but he's not wrong that it's a tough job. SHU's facilities and financial resources fall far short of most basketball high majors. It makes recruiting a challenge, especially when you need to start aiming for bigger fish to take the program to the next level. As much heat as Willard takes at times, he's quite possibly doing more with less than any other coach in America. He brought us from national laughing stock under Bobby Gonzalez (at which point Rick Pitino strongly advised him against taking the job - fortunately he didn't listen) to what's about to be 5 straight NCAA tournaments and likely a top 4 seed.

It'll hurt if he leaves, and finding a replacement won't be that easy since it is still a tough job, but without a doubt Willard has raised the profile and he'd be leaving the program in exponentially better shape than he found it in.

There is some talk floating around about potentially building a (desperately needed) new practice facility but as far as I'm aware there's been no official announcement yet so it's at least a few years away from completion.
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Re: (1) Tuesday Game. MU@ DePaul

Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:26 pm

stever20 wrote:
thebigeXpress wrote:Warriors dangerously heading to 8/9 seed territory. SJU game on Sat is no gimme.

I think they're probably already there. Bracketville on their seed list today had them at 27. so a 3-4 spot drop puts them in the heart of the 8/9 seeds....

sure enough, Marquette has fallen to #32 on the seed list at Bracketville, so the lowest 8 seed. Only 4 spots ahead of Providence right now.
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Postby Jet915 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:26 pm

Agree, Willard has done alot more with less. Seton Hall needs to capitalize on this success and put some resources into the program. Same with SJU although its tougher cause things are alot more expensive on the East coast vs. midwest.
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Re: (1) Tuesday Game. MU@ DePaul

Postby Xudash » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:51 pm

Hall2012 wrote:
Xudash wrote:
I like Willard and I disagree with Goodman's take. SHU's potential is substantial.


I agree there's potential to continue improving, but he's not wrong that it's a tough job. SHU's facilities and financial resources fall far short of most basketball high majors. It makes recruiting a challenge, especially when you need to start aiming for bigger fish to take the program to the next level. As much heat as Willard takes at times, he's quite possibly doing more with less than any other coach in America. He brought us from national laughing stock under Bobby Gonzalez (at which point Rick Pitino strongly advised him against taking the job - fortunately he didn't listen) to what's about to be 5 straight NCAA tournaments and likely a top 4 seed.

It'll hurt if he leaves, and finding a replacement won't be that easy since it is still a tough job, but without a doubt Willard has raised the profile and he'd be leaving the program in exponentially better shape than he found it in.

There is some talk floating around about potentially building a (desperately needed) new practice facility but as far as I'm aware there's been no official announcement yet so it's at least a few years away from completion.


I was just thinking about that, wondering where you guys stood with respect to that aspect of facilities.

As a conference, it seems every program has addressed their specific facilities needs, especially on the practice/fitness/luxury stuff side, save for SHU and St. Johns.

At least the Pru gets the job done as a home arena.
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Re: (1) Tuesday Game. MU@ DePaul

Postby sju88grad » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:57 pm

Xudash wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
Xudash wrote:
I like Willard and I disagree with Goodman's take. SHU's potential is substantial.


I agree there's potential to continue improving, but he's not wrong that it's a tough job. SHU's facilities and financial resources fall far short of most basketball high majors. It makes recruiting a challenge, especially when you need to start aiming for bigger fish to take the program to the next level. As much heat as Willard takes at times, he's quite possibly doing more with less than any other coach in America. He brought us from national laughing stock under Bobby Gonzalez (at which point Rick Pitino strongly advised him against taking the job - fortunately he didn't listen) to what's about to be 5 straight NCAA tournaments and likely a top 4 seed.

It'll hurt if he leaves, and finding a replacement won't be that easy since it is still a tough job, but without a doubt Willard has raised the profile and he'd be leaving the program in exponentially better shape than he found it in.

There is some talk floating around about potentially building a (desperately needed) new practice facility but as far as I'm aware there's been no official announcement yet so it's at least a few years away from completion.




I was just thinking about that, wondering where you guys stood with respect to that aspect of facilities.

As a conference, it seems every program has addressed their specific facilities needs, especially on the practice/fitness/luxury stuff side, save for SHU and St. Johns.

At least the Pru gets the job done as a home arena.


St. John's has a beautiful on campus field house that was built in 2005 and renovated in 2015. See link below.

https://redstormsports.com/sports/2018/ ... -html.aspx

MSG is MSG. The only facility lacking is Carnesecca but the money it would take to either rebuild or expand would be astronomical and it's tough to justify when most of the games (with the exception of a few conference games) are played against teams that aren't exactly a huge draw. I actually like Carnesecca because it feels like a true home court advantage. MSG brings in a lot of alums from other schools so it's not quite the same advantage, but when MSG is rocking, there's no other place like it.
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Re: (1) Tuesday Game. MU@ DePaul

Postby Hall2012 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:04 pm

Jet915 wrote:Agree, Willard has done alot more with less. Seton Hall needs to capitalize on this success and put some resources into the program. Same with SJU although its tougher cause things are alot more expensive on the East coast vs. midwest.


I think the willingness is there - the current administration is supportive of athletics - the issue is actually having the resources to put into the program. Space is another issue - Seton Hall has a tiny gated campus with little remaining undeveloped space. Something like an on-campus arena (which many fans want) is simply impossible because there's nowhere to put one. Even the practice facility will require some creativity to make happen.
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Re: (1) Tuesday Game. MU@ DePaul

Postby Xudash » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:16 pm

sju88grad wrote:St. John's has a beautiful on campus field house that was built in 2005 and renovated in 2015. See link below.

https://redstormsports.com/sports/2018/ ... -html.aspx

MSG is MSG. The only facility lacking is Carnesecca but the money it would take to either rebuild or expand would be astronomical and it's tough to justify when most of the games (with the exception of a few conference games) are played against teams that aren't exactly a huge draw. I actually like Carnesecca because it feels like a true home court advantage. MSG brings in a lot of alums from other schools so it's not quite the same advantage, but when MSG is rocking, there's no other place like it.


I stand corrected on St. Johns. Nice.

You guys have that special thing: MSG for certain home games. That is a recruiting strength that far outweighs any perceived weaknesses recruits might see in playing games at Carnesecca, if they even perceive that as a weakness.
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