old BE vs nBE?

[billyjack]

Also, no one here misses playing Pitt or West Virginia or Cincinnati or Rutgers or Miami or Virginia Tech or South Florida... nor Louisville without Pitino... nor Boston College... i would say Syracuse and UConn are the only ones, maybe Notre Dame. That's it. Maybe 3 teams.

[anXUfan]

There is no need for an "Old Big East" vs. "New Big East" event. There is no Old Big East...there is just the Big East. Schools left and schools joined as happened to many conferences. The Big East is not only alive, it is well and has come out of realignment in a better position they they were in when all those schools were here. We do not need an event with our former conference members. Syracuse wanted to keep St. John's on the schedule when they left...until they looked and suddenly they were 1-3 against the Johnnies. It's the schools that left that are looking to remain a part somehow of what they left and we continued to build on. They want to come to New York. They want the hype of playing at the Garden. They want to feel again like they are part of something they helped build, rather than an add on from an outlier of some conference footprint. What if we said we wanted to have the event outside of New York. Would they do that? What if it was at Barclays instead of the Garden? Would they do that? I doubt it. In just five years we produced two national champions, two #1 seeds in the same year, two national players of the year, had the best conference tournament average attendance out of every single conference in America including two that held theirs in the same city. Big East fans can watch their teams from anywhere in the country - Duke can't say that. We average half our teams in the dance every year. We are all good folks. We don't need any of the old schools, we don't need UConn to join to keep the Garden. We are Bulter, Creighton, Marquette, St. John's, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence, Xavier, DePaul and National Champion Villanova. This is the Big East. It's not old or new, it just is.

Hell yeah! Someday I will find this person and buy them a beer.

[MUBoxer]

Also, no one here misses playing Pitt or West Virginia or Cincinnati or Rutgers or Miami or Virginia Tech or South Florida... nor Louisville without Pitino... nor Boston College... i would say Syracuse and UConn are the only ones, maybe Notre Dame. That's it. Maybe 3 teams.

Come on Pitt and WVU were always great, WVU never really felt like it fit but Pittsburg's a cool city. Cincinnati I'll give you as they weren't what they are now (though same could be said about Prov and SHU), Rutgers and USF were got awful.

MU' fans seriously miss ND, they're on par with Wisconsin as far as our rivalries go, I remember camping out for those games with just a handle of vodka.

[billyjack]

Also, no one here misses playing Pitt or West Virginia or Cincinnati or Rutgers or Miami or Virginia Tech or South Florida... nor Louisville without Pitino... nor Boston College... i would say Syracuse and UConn are the only ones, maybe Notre Dame. That's it. Maybe 3 teams.

Come on Pitt and WVU were always great, WVU never really felt like it fit but Pittsburg's a cool city. Cincinnati I'll give you as they weren't what they are now (though same could be said about Prov and SHU), Rutgers and USF were got awful.

MU' fans seriously miss ND, they're on par with Wisconsin as far as our rivalries go, I remember camping out for those games with just a handle of vodka.

Sorry for my repeat comments here from past threads:

Pitt had some average years, some great years, and some sucky years. In the 80's they'd finish a mediocre 6th each year, except 1988 when they choked, the bastahds. In the 90's they were horrible most of the time. Yes, Pittsburgh is a very nice city. I never hated them, cuz they were just an average team for most of our 30 years together. I don't miss playing them. I don't think they miss playing the Friars either.

This is a repeat comment of mine, but it says a lot I think: the greatest highlight in the history of Pitt basketball is a 1988 dunk in the first half of a regular season game in late January. Think of how sad that is... and mediocre. Not sure how many NBA guys they produced... Charles Smith was a Knick for a while... am i forgetting anyone? Steven Adams more recently.

West Virginia wasn't always great. They were the exact same team as Rutgers (thru the 80's and 90's), together in the Atlantic-10, but Rutgers had had more recent success back then (76 Final Four). They sucked when they first joined us, 1-15 etc. They built their program cuz of their Big East membership, which they didn't earn through hoops (hadn't made a Sweet-16 since Jerry West). Had some great teams, but i don't miss them.

[MUBoxer]

Also, no one here misses playing Pitt or West Virginia or Cincinnati or Rutgers or Miami or Virginia Tech or South Florida... nor Louisville without Pitino... nor Boston College... i would say Syracuse and UConn are the only ones, maybe Notre Dame. That's it. Maybe 3 teams.

Come on Pitt and WVU were always great, WVU never really felt like it fit but Pittsburg's a cool city. Cincinnati I'll give you as they weren't what they are now (though same could be said about Prov and SHU), Rutgers and USF were got awful.

MU' fans seriously miss ND, they're on par with Wisconsin as far as our rivalries go, I remember camping out for those games with just a handle of vodka.

Sorry for my repeat comments here from past threads:

Pitt had some average years, some great years, and some sucky years. In the 80's they'd finish a mediocre 6th each year, except 1988 when they choked, the bastahds. In the 90's they were horrible most of the time. Yes, Pittsburgh is a very nice city. I never hated them, cuz they were just an average team for most of our 30 years together. I don't miss playing them. I don't think they miss playing the Friars either.

This is a repeat comment of mine, but it says a lot I think: the greatest highlight in the history of Pitt basketball is a 1988 dunk in the first half of a regular season game in late January. Think of how sad that is... and mediocre. Not sure how many NBA guys they produced... Charles Smith was a Knick for a while... am i forgetting anyone? Steven Adams more recently.

West Virginia wasn't always great. They were the exact same team as Rutgers (thru the 80's and 90's), together in the Atlantic-10, but Rutgers had had more recent success back then (76 Final Four). They sucked when they first joined us, 1-15 etc. They built their program cuz of their Big East membership, which they didn't earn through hoops (hadn't made a Sweet-16 since Jerry West). Had some great teams, but i don't miss them.

I suppose I am relating it to the Big East I watched in HS and College where Ashton Gibbs, Wannamaker, Dejan Brair (spelling?) even Steven Adams all were playing for Jamie Dixon Pitt teams that were always tough.

Same with WVU, to me Huggins is the WVU coach not the cinci coach, WVU means Deveon Ebanks, and Kevin Jones.

I absolutely miss playing those teams.

[MullinMayhem]

I sure as hell would rather be playing ND, WVU, etc. than teams like Rutgers, Cal, etc. Would be nice to play some F5 teams who are actually ranked on the regular or at least highly competitive instead of only getting matched up with the worst teams in the F5 conferences. Back when it was the OBE, yes we struggled but I remember looking at the next 6 games and you'd see all ranked teams.

[Hall2012]

Also, no one here misses playing Pitt or West Virginia or Cincinnati or Rutgers or Miami or Virginia Tech or South Florida... nor Louisville without Pitino... nor Boston College... i would say Syracuse and UConn are the only ones, maybe Notre Dame. That's it. Maybe 3 teams.

I wish we could miss playing Rutgers. Unfortunately it looks like we're stuck with that RPI (sorry, NET) anchor on our schedule for eternity.

[DudeAnon]

I have long said that Cuse and UConn are really the only teams "missing" in this current iteration and it's somewhat likely UConn is returning.

[MullinMayhem]

Sorry for beating the brakes off of Cuse so badly they don't want to play with us anymore

[redmen9194]

I have no issue playing any of the teams that left the conference. I do think that having some event to "celebrate" Big East history for lack of a better term is not needed by anyone in the Big East. We already have an event that celebrates the conference and it's past, present and future called the Big East Tournament every March in Madison Square Garden. Those schools who are not part of that event don't get to try to co-op it at this point.