DePaul is preferred over Dayton (it's official)

[NovaBall]

I don't HATE DePaul. I would much prefer if DePaul were winning their ooc games and competing. Or if they had a down yr it was after a run of a couple good yrs. I want DePaul to be good.

I am displeased with the way they are running their program. I am displeased that they failed to hire a real coach this off season. I am displeased with the way they play.

It has nothing to do with DePaul as an institution or the fans or anything except for how they run their program. And I don't like that they are so bad.

[gtmoBlue]

I posted this on a similar thread on VU Benchwarmers ...

Every conference needs teams to finish in the bottom of the conference. Every team cannot be good or the whole conference will finish 9-9 and only 1-2 teams will go to the tournament. Why do people care if DePaul sucks? Some team has to finish last. It would be nice if DePaul didn't lose all of their OOC games as that would help all BigEast team's RPI but that isn't realistic either. It is unlikely a team will be awesome out of conference and patsy once conference play starts.

The BigEast cannot have 10 good teams nor should we want that. I am happy with 5-6 tourney teams in a 10 team league with Villanova being one of them. There needs to be some relief once conference play starts, DePaul, and this year it looks like St. John's and Creighton will provide it although I suspect @Creighton will still be a tough game.

good post.

Indirectly speaking (not to mpwalsh8) it seems there is a growing sentiment by some on this board that the post-DMD Creighton teams are destined for perennial 7-10, even 9-10 status. That Creighton will join the bottom feeders club of the conference.

While last season was not pretty...I for one do not see 1 season setting a precedence for residence at the bottom. Butler had an atrocious 1st season. Creighton had an atrocious 2nd season. X had a middling 2nd season, but got hot late and rode that hot streak to the SS. We are merely at the 3rd season in.

It is a bit premature for allocating "residencies" to the new teams, although it appears that many readily assume Butler and X will be contenders at the Big-boy table and that Creighton will not be able to keep up. Even a few of the faithful have consigned the Jays to sit at the kiddie card table with Providence, DePaul, StJ, and Seton Hall-the normal bottom feeders. There is even a wee bit of sniping from our fellow newcomers,which is a bit surprising, given the 3 teams are all former midmajors. I suppose such is an attempt to establish a pedigree pecking order or the like.

I am merely suggesting that you do not "cast" your individual and group consensus' in quick-drying ferrocement. Think what you will, but don't act amazed or shocked when the Bluejays exceed your presumptions.

[NovaBall]

Who has said Creighton won't be able to keep up?

[Westbrook#36]

Who has said Creighton won't be able to keep up?

gtmo's strawman said so.

[Omaha1]

Dayton lost at home to Chattanooga today. I'd be fine if we never had another Dayton thread here again.

[Edrick]

I think Creighton is destined to be a bottom 1/3 program. This isn't any fault of their's, they just reside in the middle of a recruiting black hole. Can't do much about that, but it's not changing. It's at a distinct disadvantage to rest of the league because of it.

[OmahaGuy]

I think Creighton is destined to be a bottom 1/3 program. This isn't any fault of their's, they just reside in the middle of a recruiting black hole. Can't do much about that, but it's not changing. It's at a distinct disadvantage to rest of the league because of it.

What? They'll be fine. As long as they good a good athletic administration (check), a good program culture (check), elite facilities (check), and incredible fan support (check), they'll be alright. They certainly won't be a world beater but I got no doubt in my mind that they'll be competitive in the future.

[R Jay]

I think Creighton is destined to be a bottom 1/3 program. This isn't any fault of their's, they just reside in the middle of a recruiting black hole. Can't do much about that, but it's not changing. It's at a distinct disadvantage to rest of the league because of it.

Was about to say the same thing about Butler. Chris Holtmann will jump ship soon for a better offer. Roosie and Dunham graduate after this year. Martin and Lewis won't be able to hide behind those seniors. Good luck competing with Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, Kentucky, Louisville, Ohio State, and Xavier for recruits with a fourth head coach in several years.

[Storm Fan]

It would be nice if all 10 teams could finish in 1st place. Unfortunately, there will always be teams at the bottom. I guess my team hasn't been good enough for me to arrogantly call for other schools to be kicked out. DePaul fans must be so tired of coming on here and having to read the same crap.

[NovaBall]

Of course a team has to finish at thebottom, ur it would be nice if the bottom team tended to be a cycle of teams in rebuilding years rather than a permanent resident like depaul.