Fire Leitao and/or DePaul Athletic Director??

[DemonLS]

Thank you, RedStorm. Could not have stated it any better.

Until St. John's and DePaul reach new heights, the Big East will not be recognized, as a conference, on the same level as the P5. Nova can be great every year but that will not help OUR cause.

The TV networks WANT New York and Chicago big-time.....for a future TV contract!

[MUBoxer]

It does't matter if the talent is good or not, DL needs HIS jimmies and joes..

I guess I missed the memo that stated that anytime a team hires a new coach they are supposed to lose to a bunch of bad teams out of the gate.

Oh wait, that's not true.

Jay Wright won 19 games his first season at nova. McDermott won 23 his first season at creighton. jT3 won 19 in his first yr at Georgetown. Holtman won 23 last year. Buzz Williams won 25 his first yr at Marquette. When pitino took over providence he made a deep nit run. Steve lavin won 21 in his first yr in queens. Brad Stevens won 30 in his first year. Steve fisher took over Michigan the week before the 1989 tourney and won the whole thing. Pete Gillen won 25 games in his first season at Xavier and 17 his first yr in providence. Chris Mack won 26 his first year at Xavier.

Chris mullin has a completely bare cupboard and his kids are competing.

A coach should be able to coach, no matter who brought the kids to campus. And DePaul has more than enough talent to compete right now.

Umm for the record Buzz and Lavin took over teams that were going to be good even if a monkey coached them. Buzz's team had four returning all conference players coming off of three NCAA bids. Lavin had a team with so much experience I'm pretty sure it was older than half the NBA teams out there.

Also, it's funny how in this thread you cite losses to Florida state and South Carolina as bad losses. When they are way better than what Wake Forest and Alabama were last year. Yet, in another thread you cited Wake and Bama as some of the signature wins for Xavier since they joined the big east. How does that work? It doesn't work. You know why? Cause you are saying these things to help your argument when they aren't true. I'm not saying DePaul is playing great right now, but you are blowing everything out of proportion, making it sound like they've lost to a bunch of terrible teams when it isn't true. Yea they lost to a weak penn state team. But Seton Hall lost to Long Beach State. Georgetown lost to Radford. Marquette lost to Belmont. Where's the fire Willard thread? Where's the fire JT3 thread? Where's the fire Wojciechowski thread? They are nowhere to be found, because firing a coach because of one bad loss is premature. And you know that. That's why you tried to paint South Carolina and Florida State as bad teams when that's not the case.

I'm not disagreeing, but there is a fire JT3 thread it's right here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4786

Depaul's struggled through hell, being snubbed in 2007 with Quentin Richardson probably was the difference between a good rebuilding tenure for Jerry Wainwright and the dumpster fire it ended up being. Like Demon says the programs with the best traditions like Nova or GTown or MU etc could be killing it yet Depaul and St John's being good is actually more vital to the conference.

DemonLS I am curious if you think the Leitao hire was a temporary solution till the stadium gets done? Just a theory but if he's not successful he'd be fired right around the opening which makes me wonder if the plan was give him a shot, if he succeeds great if not you get to sell a brand new stadium to some young successful mid major coach in a couple years.

[Hoya Hoya Hoya]

Fire DePaul's entire athletic department

[NJRedman]

Okay my take on this situation is this. Leitao isn't the answer and the AD needs to be fired for thinking it was. I know DePaul isn't a destination most coaches want to go so I would rather my AD takes a chance on an up and coming young coach than just keep giving over the hill has beens another shot. They need to stop looking for a name and start looking for an actual coach. DePaul has struggled since entering this league almost 15 years ago. Thats completely unacceptable. It seems to me that they have become what the Royals used to be, just happy to collect a check and having no qualms about putting a sub standard product on the floor. I know DePaul fans and alum aren't happy about it either and should make their voice heard. I know voting with their wallets hasn't helped since the school doesn't care that no one shows up to the games.

Teams have down periods, St. John's is clawing out of a long one ourselves but we've at least shown signs of trying. Lavin didn't work out but still was coming off of 5 sweet 16's at UCLA and made the NCAA's twice in 5 years at SJU. It doesn't seem like they are even trying with these coaching hires.

[RedStormHoops]

Okay my take on this situation is this. Leitao isn't the answer and the AD needs to be fired for thinking it was. I know DePaul isn't a destination most coaches want to go so I would rather my AD takes a chance on an up and coming young coach than just keep giving over the hill has beens another shot. They need to stop looking for a name and start looking for an actual coach. DePaul has struggled since entering this league almost 15 years ago. Thats completely unacceptable. It seems to me that they have become what the Royals used to be, just happy to collect a check and having no qualms about putting a sub standard product on the floor. I know DePaul fans and alum aren't happy about it either and should make their voice heard. I know voting with their wallets hasn't helped since the school doesn't care that no one shows up to the games.

Teams have down periods, St. John's is clawing out of a long one ourselves but we've at least shown signs of trying. Lavin didn't work out but still was coming off of 5 sweet 16's at UCLA and made the NCAA's twice in 5 years at SJU. It doesn't seem like they are even trying with these coaching hires.

DePaul spending tons of money on a brand new arena is definitely a "sign of trying"

[NJRedman]

Okay my take on this situation is this. Leitao isn't the answer and the AD needs to be fired for thinking it was. I know DePaul isn't a destination most coaches want to go so I would rather my AD takes a chance on an up and coming young coach than just keep giving over the hill has beens another shot. They need to stop looking for a name and start looking for an actual coach. DePaul has struggled since entering this league almost 15 years ago. Thats completely unacceptable. It seems to me that they have become what the Royals used to be, just happy to collect a check and having no qualms about putting a sub standard product on the floor. I know DePaul fans and alum aren't happy about it either and should make their voice heard. I know voting with their wallets hasn't helped since the school doesn't care that no one shows up to the games.

Teams have down periods, St. John's is clawing out of a long one ourselves but we've at least shown signs of trying. Lavin didn't work out but still was coming off of 5 sweet 16's at UCLA and made the NCAA's twice in 5 years at SJU. It doesn't seem like they are even trying with these coaching hires.

DePaul spending tons of money on a brand new arena is definitely a "sign of trying"

The city of Chicago is spending a ton of money on that arena.

[MUBoxer]

Okay my take on this situation is this. Leitao isn't the answer and the AD needs to be fired for thinking it was. I know DePaul isn't a destination most coaches want to go so I would rather my AD takes a chance on an up and coming young coach than just keep giving over the hill has beens another shot. They need to stop looking for a name and start looking for an actual coach. DePaul has struggled since entering this league almost 15 years ago. Thats completely unacceptable. It seems to me that they have become what the Royals used to be, just happy to collect a check and having no qualms about putting a sub standard product on the floor. I know DePaul fans and alum aren't happy about it either and should make their voice heard. I know voting with their wallets hasn't helped since the school doesn't care that no one shows up to the games.

Teams have down periods, St. John's is clawing out of a long one ourselves but we've at least shown signs of trying. Lavin didn't work out but still was coming off of 5 sweet 16's at UCLA and made the NCAA's twice in 5 years at SJU. It doesn't seem like they are even trying with these coaching hires.

DePaul spending tons of money on a brand new arena is definitely a "sign of trying"

The city of Chicago is spending a ton of money on that arena.

No the city is spending a ton on the hotel. They aren't spending anything on the arena itself because the financing plan was changed to appease aldermen

[NJRedman]

DePaul spending tons of money on a brand new arena is definitely a "sign of trying"

The city of Chicago is spending a ton of money on that arena.

No the city is spending a ton on the hotel. They aren't spending anything on the arena itself because the financing plan was changed to appease aldermen

So then is DePaul paying for the whole thing because I don't buy that.

[MUBoxer]

So then is DePaul paying for the whole thing because I don't buy that.

No Mcpier is paying half and DePaul is paying half. Mcpier is able to pay for the arena because the finances hat were going to the hotel now are coming from TIF. I mean you could argue that the government is paying for the arena indirectly i guess since their payment to the hotel frees up mcpier's funds for the arena but the government is guaranteed their investment back this way as opposed to investing in the arena.

[NJRedman]

Okay so I did some research, looks like DePaul is putting up 70 million of the 173 million dollar arena and will pay 25K a game rent for the men and 15K a game for the womens basketball teams.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1 ... mick-place