2019 BE Non-Conference Schedules...

[NJRedman]

You are basing KSUs schedule on how it shook out at the end of the year after the games were played but SJUs on before the season even starts. I’ll take the bet that it’s not in the top 3 worst P6 OOCs. GTown could still have a worse OOC than us which would mean we weren’t even the worst in the conference.

Once again it wasn’t ever going to be great without a preseason tourney and getting matched up with Rutgers in the Gavitt Games.

Also how is it better to have a tough schedule and more losses on the resume? I’ll take weak wins over tough loses if I want to make the tourney. Let’s have the toughest schedule every year and have 4-5 OOC loses every year! That’ll be great for the ‘ol resume!

It was a mistake having such tough schedules for a rebuilding program the last few years. We should have had this schedule the last two years and now have last years schedule.

Our AD is gone so who even knows who was in charge of scheduling this season. We might have had the assistant AD trying to set up games.

[adoraz]

You are basing KSUs schedule on how it shook out at the end of the year after the games were played but SJUs on before the season even starts. I’ll take the bet that it’s not in the top 3 worst P6 OOCs. GTown could still have a worse OOC than us which would mean we weren’t even the worst in the conference.

Once again it wasn’t ever going to be great without a preseason tourney and getting matched up with Rutgers in the Gavitt Games.

Also how is it better to have a tough schedule and more losses on the resume? I’ll take weak wins over tough loses if I want to make the tourney. Let’s have the toughest schedule every year and have 4-5 OOC loses every year! That’ll be great for the ‘ol resume!

It was a mistake having such tough schedules for a rebuilding program the last few years. We should have had this schedule the last two years and now have last years schedule.

Our AD is gone so who even knows who was in charge of scheduling this season. We might have had the assistant AD trying to set up games.

I'm sorry, but the bolded statement is just... it is clear you don't understand how RPI/SOS works. Weak wins are a bad thing. I've already shown twice how running the table against cupcakes HURT Georgetown and KSU last year significantly. Our schedule is currently projected worse than KSU's (SOS of 327).

GSJ made the schedule this year. Mullin's hire. This is 100% on the staff.

Once again, stop making excuses. We don't need to schedule Kentucky. Simply replacing the 4/5 300+ RPI cupcakes with literally anyone else would be a step up. Playing against a solid mid major like Iona would be great. Top 50/100 teams would be great too, but you're way oversimplifying the issue. The ENTIRE schedule is horrible. Last year we played only one RPI 300+ opponent, BTW. Why the hell are we scheduling Maryland Eastern Shore? 3rd worst team in the nation.

I'm nearly positive if we had this schedule last year, we'd have the worst schedule of ANY major conference team besides Georgetown. I think even Georgetown will be improving their schedule this year. So, good luck with that top 3 bet. I would actually love to bet real money on this.

[Red Rooster]

You are basing KSUs schedule on how it shook out at the end of the year after the games were played but SJUs on before the season even starts. I’ll take the bet that it’s not in the top 3 worst P6 OOCs. GTown could still have a worse OOC than us which would mean we weren’t even the worst in the conference.

Once again it wasn’t ever going to be great without a preseason tourney and getting matched up with Rutgers in the Gavitt Games.

Also how is it better to have a tough schedule and more losses on the resume? I’ll take weak wins over tough loses if I want to make the tourney. Let’s have the toughest schedule every year and have 4-5 OOC loses every year! That’ll be great for the ‘ol resume!

It was a mistake having such tough schedules for a rebuilding program the last few years. We should have had this schedule the last two years and now have last years schedule.

Our AD is gone so who even knows who was in charge of scheduling this season. We might have had the assistant AD trying to set up games.

I'm sorry, but the bolded statement is just... it is clear you don't understand how RPI/SOS works. Weak wins are a bad thing. I've already shown twice how running the table against cupcakes HURT Georgetown and KSU last year significantly. Our schedule is currently projected worse than KSU's (SOS of 327).

GSJ made the schedule this year. Mullin's hire. This is 100% on the staff.

Once again, stop making excuses. We don't need to schedule Kentucky. Simply replacing the 4/5 300+ RPI cupcakes with literally anyone else would be a step up. Playing against a solid mid major like Iona would be great. Top 50/100 teams would be great too, but you're way oversimplifying the issue. The ENTIRE schedule is horrible. Last year we played only one RPI 300+ opponent, BTW. Why the hell are we scheduling Maryland Eastern Shore? 3rd worst team in the nation.

I'm nearly positive if we had this schedule last year, we'd have the worst schedule of ANY major conference team besides Georgetown. I think even Georgetown will be improving their schedule this year. So, good luck with that top 3 bet. I would actually love to bet real money on this.

NJ is also being a major hypocrite. The same thing he railed two Hoya fans about, in regards to their schedule last season, he's doing the very, exact thing they were doing a season ago. And, that's making up excuses (his responses are nearly similar). The Johnnies shouldn't have any excuse to put out this type of schedule, considering this is a team that should be making its way to the NCAA tournament.

Currently, the schedule is a poor one. Could it change with a team or two suprising for the better? Sure, that could happen and turn our more-than-pedestrian schedule into an average one. Currently constructed, it isn't even average.

One thing about me is I'm fair. For the most part, I'm generally going to call it the same way when it comes to my team, as I'll call it for another team. We have no business playing this type of schedule, and hopefully, we luck out with a couple teams overperforming.

It was a mistake having such tough schedules for a rebuilding program the last few years. We should have had this schedule the last two years and now have last years schedule.

So, you're practically admitting this current schedule isn't any good, correct? Last season's schedule was good for last season's team, too.

Our AD is gone so who even knows who was in charge of scheduling this season. We might have had the assistant AD trying to set up games.

St. Jean did set up the schedule. I'm sure Mullin had some input, but it was St. Jean doing the quarterbacking.

[Red Rooster]

NJRedman is okay with having essentially G'Town's schedule in Ewing's first year...in a year when we have the potential to finish top 3 in conference and maybe even crack the top 25 if Heron can play. Do you understand RPI, SOS, and signature wins? Our schedule gives us 1 chance to prove anything. If we beat Rutgers and Georgia Tech by 20 each everyone will say "so what?". The only way we can impress is by beating Duke at Duke which is the type of scenario only an idiot would arrange. Look at the other Big East OOC schedules...they have 4 or 5 chances to truly prove themselves nationally with good but beatable teams like Texas and Maryland. Even if we lose at Duke but win every other game OOC heading into conference play, we will need to dominate our way to 11 or 12 wins to be safely in the tourney most likely. Setting yourself up so you have to dominate a very strong conference to get to the tourney is again idiotic. If we would've scheduled some Wisconsin's, Notre Dame's, and Kansas State's sprinkled in with Duke and the cupcakes, then it gives us more margin for error. We could lose at Duke but win 1 of Wisconsin/Notre Dame/Kansas State giving us 1 signature win before conference play even starts. Our SOS and RPI would still be higher with all those losses vs. winning against nobodies.

Look at this guy! hahahahaha if we just get Wisconsin and Notre Dame on the schedule! Yeah okay guy, they are just lining up to play us! hahahahaha

It's not exactly hard getting those games versus other Power 6 schools. They'd likely want a "home and home" and that's about it. Most times there could be issues with vacancies, but if so then just keep searching around until you find a reasonably, viable option.

[adoraz]

You are basing KSUs schedule on how it shook out at the end of the year after the games were played but SJUs on before the season even starts. I’ll take the bet that it’s not in the top 3 worst P6 OOCs. GTown could still have a worse OOC than us which would mean we weren’t even the worst in the conference.

Once again it wasn’t ever going to be great without a preseason tourney and getting matched up with Rutgers in the Gavitt Games.

Also how is it better to have a tough schedule and more losses on the resume? I’ll take weak wins over tough loses if I want to make the tourney. Let’s have the toughest schedule every year and have 4-5 OOC loses every year! That’ll be great for the ‘ol resume!

It was a mistake having such tough schedules for a rebuilding program the last few years. We should have had this schedule the last two years and now have last years schedule.

Our AD is gone so who even knows who was in charge of scheduling this season. We might have had the assistant AD trying to set up games.

I'm sorry, but the bolded statement is just... it is clear you don't understand how RPI/SOS works. Weak wins are a bad thing. I've already shown twice how running the table against cupcakes HURT Georgetown and KSU last year significantly. Our schedule is currently projected worse than KSU's (SOS of 327).

GSJ made the schedule this year. Mullin's hire. This is 100% on the staff.

Once again, stop making excuses. We don't need to schedule Kentucky. Simply replacing the 4/5 300+ RPI cupcakes with literally anyone else would be a step up. Playing against a solid mid major like Iona would be great. Top 50/100 teams would be great too, but you're way oversimplifying the issue. The ENTIRE schedule is horrible. Last year we played only one RPI 300+ opponent, BTW. Why the hell are we scheduling Maryland Eastern Shore? 3rd worst team in the nation.

I'm nearly positive if we had this schedule last year, we'd have the worst schedule of ANY major conference team besides Georgetown. I think even Georgetown will be improving their schedule this year. So, good luck with that top 3 bet. I would actually love to bet real money on this.

NJ is also being a major hypocrite. The same thing he railed two Hoya fans about, in regards to their schedule last season, he's doing the very, exact thing they were doing a season ago. And, that's making up excuses (his responses are nearly similar). The Johnnies shouldn't have any excuse to put out this type of schedule, considering this is a team that should be making its way to the NCAA tournament.

Currently, the schedule is a poor one. Could it change with a team or two suprising for the better? Sure, that could happen and turn our more-than-pedestrian schedule into an average one. Currently constructed, it isn't even average.

One thing about me is I'm fair. For the most part, I'm generally going to call it the same way when it comes to my team, as I'll call it for another team. We have no business playing this type of schedule, and hopefully, we luck out with a couple teams overperforming.

It was a mistake having such tough schedules for a rebuilding program the last few years. We should have had this schedule the last two years and now have last years schedule.

So, you're practically admitting this current schedule isn't any good, correct? Last season's schedule was good for last season's team, too.

Our AD is gone so who even knows who was in charge of scheduling this season. We might have had the assistant AD trying to set up games.

St. Jean did set up the schedule. I'm sure Mullin had some input, but it was St. Jean doing the quarterbacking.

I agree with you. The only thing I disagree with is that if a team or two overperform (even by a lot) that it would make it an average schedule. The problem is the entire schedule is weak. Sure we have #3 Duke but we also have #349 MES. Then we have 3-4 other teams ranked 300-351 (out of 351 teams) and zero other teams ranked 1-50. I don't see any scenario where this ends up being anything but a poor schedule. Probably 10/13 or so of the teams would need to overperform for that to happen IMO.

This is really the first time I'm questioning the staff. I thought GSJ is a smart guy, and maybe he is, but I just can't understand how this schedule could happen. Mullin also should be criticized for signing off on it. I question if they actually attempted to project SOS. That said, if the team has a big year and make the Tournament, then no big deal. If they don't, though...

[MullinMayhem]

I do agree with NJ that we should have scheduled easier the first 2 years and had last year's schedule this year. But the fact is that we have an abomination of an OOC schedule this year. It's a wide open year in the conference and everyone knew that for months and months. The one year when we can really break through nationally if Heron is eligible and we knew we'd need a strong OOC schedule to balance out a possibly much weaker conference with maybe 1 ranked team. It is not an exaggeration at all right now to say that fans would run this program better than staff. As sad as that sounds...it's true.

[adoraz]

I do agree with NJ that we should have scheduled easier the first 2 years and had last year's schedule this year. But the fact is that we have an abomination of an OOC schedule this year. It's a wide open year in the conference and everyone knew that for months and months. The one year when we can really break through nationally if Heron is eligible and we knew we'd need a strong OOC schedule to balance out a possibly much weaker conference with maybe 1 ranked team. It is not an exaggeration at all right now to say that fans would run this program better than staff. As sad as that sounds...it's true.

Yes. In order for the OOC to be a "success" or anywhere close to it, we most likely will need to start the season 12-0. Idiotic.

I agree that fans would run the program better. Now we aren't even sure what's going on with Rice. We still don't know the full story on what happened with Slice, just that it ended terribly for SJU.

The only positive right now is the current roster. The only person on staff I trust is Matt.

Hoping Mullin can pull through this year and make the Tournament. He at least showed improvements last year. If we don't make it, though, I hope the entire SJU community is united in wanting him out. No more excuses.

[MullinMayhem]

Agreed...the buck stops this season with Mullin. 4 full years to prove you can give us anything resembling an NCAA bid with a ton of talented players on the roster (with experience too) is more than fair. I really hope we make the tourney and get our coaching staff figured out.

[DudeAnon]

Agreed that St. John's did an awful job scheduling this year and it could very well cost them a bid. Disagree on him being fired if he misses the tournament this year. Like it or not, being the most famous alum ever gives you at least 5 years.

[adoraz]

Agreed that St. John's did an awful job scheduling this year and it could very well cost them a bid. Disagree on him being fired if he misses the tournament this year. Like it or not, being the most famous alum ever gives you at least 5 years.

I'm not saying he should or would be fired. Just "pushed" out. I'm pretty sure Mullin would want to leave on his own at that point, because nearly everyone would want him gone.

Year 5 will probably be a worse year than next. Players like Ponds and Heron most likely will leave. Simon could grad transfer. Him returning in year 5 would probably just make things worse.