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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby Jet915 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:47 am

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Jet915 wrote:I think the point was, Creighton still has ample opportunities to play their way in while Wichita only has games left to play their way further out.

Put the numbers and RPI and all that away and just look at Wichita State's schedule. They have one win over teams expected to be in the tournament. Best win is Utah at home. Next best is over Evansville.


Utah is a tourney team, but I get your point. I think they will get some leeway because FVV was out but i think they cant afford to lose one more game until the MVC final to be safely in.
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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby Omaha1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:50 am

Jet915 wrote:
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Jet915 wrote:I think the point was, Creighton still has ample opportunities to play their way in while Wichita only has games left to play their way further out.

Put the numbers and RPI and all that away and just look at Wichita State's schedule. They have one win over teams expected to be in the tournament. Best win is Utah at home. Next best is over Evansville.


Utah is a tourney team, but I get your point. I think they will get some leeway because FVV was out but i think they cant afford to lose one more game until the MVC final to be safely in.

Well they lost their last 2 games to MVC teams > 100 RPI including at home yesterday so I'm not sure I would bank on anything at the moment. They lost to Seton Hall at full strength for a comparison of where they should rank on the bubble.
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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby DudeAnon » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:53 am

We need everyone to beef us their OOC SOS next year. Creighton looks and plays like a tourney team, but their OOC schedule is killing them.
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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby jaybydna » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:00 am

DudeAnon wrote:We need everyone to beef us their OOC SOS next year. Creighton looks and plays like a tourney team, but their OOC schedule is killing them.


As a season ticket holder, 100% agree. But remember, this was a rebuilding year for Creighton. 3/5ths of our team had not played in two years, another was hurt for the last half of last season, and we had a lot of questions marks. The strategy was to use the noncon to build a team, and I think it worked.

Hopefully the total SOS will count more than the noncon SOS.
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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby Omaha1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:04 am

DudeAnon wrote:We need everyone to beef us their OOC SOS next year. Creighton looks and plays like a tourney team, but their OOC schedule is killing them.

We know. Tough loses at Oklahoma and Indiana and games we gave away against Az St and Loyola. Team could have gone one of two ways but glad that we've battled through and put ourselves in good position for MSG.
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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:13 am

DudeAnon wrote:We need everyone to beef us their OOC SOS next year. Creighton looks and plays like a tourney team, but their OOC schedule is killing them.

CU's schedule wasn't crappy by design. We had OOC road games against Indiana and Oklahoma and homes with Arizona State and Nebraska. The problem was the Vegas tourney, which include two horrible opening games, where we advanced to play Rutgers and UMass. Clemson was also in the tournament, but they lost to UMass, so we didn't play them. The other killer was a road game at Loyola, which was a contractual obligation from the Bracketbuster days. (And, of course, we lost.) So we didn't intentionally schedule light, it just turned out that way.

If you want to spend a half-hour in hell, ask a Creighton fan what they think of Bracketbusters.
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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby SDJay » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:40 am

Wizard of Westroads wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:We need everyone to beef us their OOC SOS next year. Creighton looks and plays like a tourney team, but their OOC schedule is killing them.

CU's schedule wasn't crappy by design. We had OOC road games against Indiana and Oklahoma and homes with Arizona State and Nebraska. The problem was the Vegas tourney, which include two horrible opening games, where we advanced to play Rutgers and UMass. Clemson was also in the tournament, but they lost to UMass, so we didn't play them. The other killer was a road game at Loyola, which was a contractual obligation from the Bracketbuster days. (And, of course, we lost.) So we didn't intentionally schedule light, it just turned out that way.

If you want to spend a half-hour in hell, ask a Creighton fan what they think of Bracketbusters.


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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby stever20 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:46 am

Wizard of Westroads wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:We need everyone to beef us their OOC SOS next year. Creighton looks and plays like a tourney team, but their OOC schedule is killing them.

CU's schedule wasn't crappy by design. We had OOC road games against Indiana and Oklahoma and homes with Arizona State and Nebraska. The problem was the Vegas tourney, which include two horrible opening games, where we advanced to play Rutgers and UMass. Clemson was also in the tournament, but they lost to UMass, so we didn't play them. The other killer was a road game at Loyola, which was a contractual obligation from the Bracketbuster days. (And, of course, we lost.) So we didn't intentionally schedule light, it just turned out that way.

If you want to spend a half-hour in hell, ask a Creighton fan what they think of Bracketbusters.


OK, so you have mentioned 9 games. Then add Western Illinois, IUPUI, North Texas, and Coppin St. If you knew the Vegas tourney had 2 soft games for sure plus Rutgers- along with the Loyola game- how can you schedule those 4 soft games? That IS scheduling crappy by design....

As far as Creighton is concerned vs Wichita- folks say Wichita has 1 win vs a tourney team. Right now Creighton has 1 win vs a lock tourney team- Xavier. Seton Hall and Butler are bubble teams and no lock to make the tourney. And also Wichita will get some slack from the FVV situation. And with advanced metrics being so big, them being 18 puts them in a good place right now.
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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby Omaha1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:50 am

stever20 wrote:
Wizard of Westroads wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:We need everyone to beef us their OOC SOS next year. Creighton looks and plays like a tourney team, but their OOC schedule is killing them.

CU's schedule wasn't crappy by design. We had OOC road games against Indiana and Oklahoma and homes with Arizona State and Nebraska. The problem was the Vegas tourney, which include two horrible opening games, where we advanced to play Rutgers and UMass. Clemson was also in the tournament, but they lost to UMass, so we didn't play them. The other killer was a road game at Loyola, which was a contractual obligation from the Bracketbuster days. (And, of course, we lost.) So we didn't intentionally schedule light, it just turned out that way.

If you want to spend a half-hour in hell, ask a Creighton fan what they think of Bracketbusters.


OK, so you have mentioned 9 games. Then add Western Illinois, IUPUI, North Texas, and Coppin St. If you knew the Vegas tourney had 2 soft games for sure plus Rutgers- along with the Loyola game- how can you schedule those 4 soft games? That IS scheduling crappy by design....

As far as Creighton is concerned vs Wichita- folks say Wichita has 1 win vs a tourney team. Right now Creighton has 1 win vs a lock tourney team- Xavier. Seton Hall and Butler are bubble teams and no lock to make the tourney. And also Wichita will get some slack from the FVV situation. And with advanced metrics being so big, them being 18 puts them in a good place right now.

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Re: Big East Games of Interest: 2015-2016

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:32 pm

stever20 wrote:
Wizard of Westroads wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:We need everyone to beef us their OOC SOS next year. Creighton looks and plays like a tourney team, but their OOC schedule is killing them.

CU's schedule wasn't crappy by design. We had OOC road games against Indiana and Oklahoma and homes with Arizona State and Nebraska. The problem was the Vegas tourney, which include two horrible opening games, where we advanced to play Rutgers and UMass. Clemson was also in the tournament, but they lost to UMass, so we didn't play them. The other killer was a road game at Loyola, which was a contractual obligation from the Bracketbuster days. (And, of course, we lost.) So we didn't intentionally schedule light, it just turned out that way.

If you want to spend a half-hour in hell, ask a Creighton fan what they think of Bracketbusters.


OK, so you have mentioned 9 games. Then add Western Illinois, IUPUI, North Texas, and Coppin St. If you knew the Vegas tourney had 2 soft games for sure plus Rutgers- along with the Loyola game- how can you schedule those 4 soft games? That IS scheduling crappy by design....

As far as Creighton is concerned vs Wichita- folks say Wichita has 1 win vs a tourney team. Right now Creighton has 1 win vs a lock tourney team- Xavier. Seton Hall and Butler are bubble teams and no lock to make the tourney. And also Wichita will get some slack from the FVV situation. And with advanced metrics being so big, them being 18 puts them in a good place right now.

Schedules aren't put together in November. North Texas was a package of games put together earlier, this is the third. The tournament had been on the schedule since last year. I'm not saying it was put together to be the No. 1 OOC schedule in the country. It was designed to be a decent schedule for a team with a lot of new faces. It turned out to be horrible.

I came here this morning and saw Stever on the most recent threads and thought, "God, does this guy have a life?" followed by, "I hope nobody takes the bait." Sigh, I took the bait. The Holy Land of Hoops dripping faucet wins again.
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