Who Will Lead Our Conference This Year?

[sju88grad]

As a power conference, ahem; we can't have years like this. All due respect to the Johnnies, Marquette, and DePaul...but imo they need to, but can't sustain their early successes... [etc]...

Anti Big East fans want to place us on a freakin hamster wheel, running frenetically in perpetuity. Chasing impossible-to-reach goalposts. So why are you falling for this shit?

I mean, yeah, we have a 40-year-old virgin who is a human freak show peppering us hourly with doom and gloom. The sheer quantity of shit he evacuates from his fingertips is insane.

We also have ESPN Pravda piping anti-Big-East propaganda over the Berlin Wall 24/7. So yeah, that can have an influence too.

But c'mon.

Eight months ago, Villanova, a school that finished second in the Big East regular season, and which needed overtime to win the Big East Finals... they won a National Championship with all six NCAA games being won by double digits. Kicking the shit out of the competition. That hadn't been done since the Cheatin Tarheels of 2009. Not sure when it had happened prior to that.

This season at this point is a complete toss-up. The conference is strong and it's balanced. Each of is well over 500, each with wins over teams from the other 5 power conferences. None of us have horrible losses.

What is there not to like?

Creighton... what was their bad loss? We know that they're young. We know they would hit some speed bumps as they improved. They've lost to 4 great teams... Ohio State, Nebraska, Gonzaga, and Oklahoma. They've beaten Clemson, who was ranked and was all lined up for the ESPN fellatio treatment. They also have actually good wins against lesser-regarded teams like Montana, ETSU, Green Bay, and others.

Again, there are pundits and dimwits who we will never satisfy. Their teams and/or conferences suck, and they try to drag us down to their sorry pathetic level. They inhabit Frankenstein-esque nonsensical conferences like the ACC, where they're completely miserable...

Seriously, please name any Syracuse fan who truly feels like watching Clemson or Wake Forest run around the Carrier Dome. Please find any Syracuse fan that wants to trek around fuckin Brooklyn instead of MSG. Or hang out in fuckin Greensboro North Carolina, a freakin truckstop with Denny's and Cracker Barrel. Lol, c'mon.

Enjoy the ride here in the Big East... sending guys to the NBA, winning National Championships, packing our arenas, watching the top talent in the nation every night on our own FS1 network... balanced, bruising, real, competitive, and bad ass.

Kick ass post Billyjack!!! Well said.

[adoraz]

Good post Billy.

I'll just add that having Marquette and St. John's relevant again is massive.

As far as us St. John's fans are concerned, this is the most optimistic we've been since realignment. I'm sure Marquette fans are enjoying their strong start to the season as well.

Remember, 6 years ago St. John's and Marquette were seen as 2 of the 3 or 4 most important teams in the league.

Obviously we want everyone to be good, but which would be better for the league? Another year with Nova and Xavier at the top, or Marquette and St. John's at the top? I'd absolutely say the latter. League needs shakeups, otherwise it gets stale.

Still a long way to go, but I'd say the OOC is already a success for St. John's. Getting to 11 wins puts us in a great position heading into Big East play. 12 would be excellent. 13 is pretty unlikely, but would put us in line for a top seed.

I've seen a lot of pessimistic posts from traditionally excellent teams (such as Xavier). I feel a lot of that stems from how their team is doing, rather than the conference itself.

This is the season a lot of us have been waiting for. At the end of the day, fans of individual teams care about how their team performs. Nobody is giving Wake Forest a crown for Duke's achievements.

A shakeup like this is great for the league. Nova and Xavier will return to traditional powers next year (or later this year). Teams like Providence and Creighton will rebound. DePaul should be better. Etc, etc.

[vtwarrior]

Good post Billy.

I'll just add that having Marquette and St. John's relevant again is massive.

As far as us St. John's fans are concerned, this is the most optimistic we've been since realignment. I'm sure Marquette fans are enjoying their strong start to the season as well.

Remember, 6 years ago St. John's and Marquette were seen as 2 of the 3 or 4 most important teams in the league.

Obviously we want everyone to be good, but which would be better for the league? Another year with Nova and Xavier at the top, or Marquette and St. John's at the top? I'd absolutely say the latter. League needs shakeups, otherwise it gets stale.

Still a long way to go, but I'd say the OOC is already a success for St. John's. Getting to 11 wins puts us in a great position heading into Big East play. 12 would be excellent. 13 is pretty unlikely, but would put us in line for a top seed.

I've seen a lot of pessimistic posts from traditionally excellent teams (such as Xavier). I feel a lot of that stems from how their team is doing, rather than the conference itself.

This is the season a lot of us have been waiting for. At the end of the day, fans of individual teams care about how their team performs. Nobody is giving Wake Forest a crown for Duke's achievements.

A shakeup like this is great for the league. Nova and Xavier will return to traditional powers next year (or later this year). Teams like Providence and Creighton will rebound. DePaul should be better. Etc, etc.

You are missing NET.......0 - 0.....St. John's in Bracketology is a 9 seed.....

Vill and MU are in the 7 seed area.....

MU will be a 4 or 5 if they can beat Buffalo and go to 4 - 2 Quad 1 wins with NET.....(one of the best in the NCAA)

PS.....To all the millennials out there.....

Marquette Golden Eagles
Tournament Appearances: 32
Final Fours: 3
Championships: 1 (1977)

Georgetown and St. John's are similar.......Villanova is best.....3 wins.....other totals similar.....

PSS.....Top 10 NCAA money generated by B-ball.....

[adoraz]

Good post Billy.

I'll just add that having Marquette and St. John's relevant again is massive.

As far as us St. John's fans are concerned, this is the most optimistic we've been since realignment. I'm sure Marquette fans are enjoying their strong start to the season as well.

Remember, 6 years ago St. John's and Marquette were seen as 2 of the 3 or 4 most important teams in the league.

Obviously we want everyone to be good, but which would be better for the league? Another year with Nova and Xavier at the top, or Marquette and St. John's at the top? I'd absolutely say the latter. League needs shakeups, otherwise it gets stale.

Still a long way to go, but I'd say the OOC is already a success for St. John's. Getting to 11 wins puts us in a great position heading into Big East play. 12 would be excellent. 13 is pretty unlikely, but would put us in line for a top seed.

I've seen a lot of pessimistic posts from traditionally excellent teams (such as Xavier). I feel a lot of that stems from how their team is doing, rather than the conference itself.

This is the season a lot of us have been waiting for. At the end of the day, fans of individual teams care about how their team performs. Nobody is giving Wake Forest a crown for Duke's achievements.

A shakeup like this is great for the league. Nova and Xavier will return to traditional powers next year (or later this year). Teams like Providence and Creighton will rebound. DePaul should be better. Etc, etc.

You are missing NET.......0 - 0.....St. John's in Bracketology is a 9 seed.....

Vill and MU are in the 7 seed area.....

MU will be a 4 or 5 if they can beat Buffalo and go to 4 - 2 Quad 1 wins with NET.....(one of the best in the NCAA)

PS.....To all the millennials out there.....

Marquette Golden Eagles
Tournament Appearances: 32
Final Fours: 3
Championships: 1 (1977)

Georgetown and St. John's are similar.......Villanova is best.....3 wins.....other totals similar.....

PSS.....Top 10 NCAA money generated by B-ball.....

You again? St. John's is #26 in NET, at least research before trolling lol. Top 50 teams should make the Tournament. I'm not concerned with being a top seed (as awesome as that would be), I just want to make the Tournament.

Mods, keep on an eye on this guy.

(seriously, I'm pretty sure it's Stever)

[Savannah Jay]

I mean, yeah, we have a 40-year-old virgin who is a human freak show peppering us hourly with doom and gloom. The sheer quantity of shit he evacuates from his fingertips is insane.

This was worth the price of admission...

What is there not to like?

Creighton... what was their bad loss? We know that they're young. We know they would hit some speed bumps as they improved. They've lost to 4 great teams... Ohio State, Nebraska, Gonzaga, and Oklahoma. They've beaten Clemson, who was ranked and was all lined up for the ESPN fellatio treatment. They also have actually good wins against lesser-regarded teams like Montana, ETSU, Green Bay, and others.

I've always fallen for a little bit too much "sunshine and roses" regarding my Bluejays (not gtmo level, but overly optimistic sometimes) but I agree with you about our team. As I said earlier, no idea if we make the NCAA or not but this team is fun to watch. Tyshon has exploded, Damien Jefferson is better than my wildest dream (well, maybe not my wildest), Tini getting healthy...everybody that's back is better than they were and we have some sweet freshman thrown in (you can put Zegarowski and TSA on your Pan AM team).

The conference games are going to be so competitive and fun to watch this season...feckin cheers!

[MUBoxer]

Good post Billy.

I'll just add that having Marquette and St. John's relevant again is massive.

As far as us St. John's fans are concerned, this is the most optimistic we've been since realignment. I'm sure Marquette fans are enjoying their strong start to the season as well.

Remember, 6 years ago St. John's and Marquette were seen as 2 of the 3 or 4 most important teams in the league.

Obviously we want everyone to be good, but which would be better for the league? Another year with Nova and Xavier at the top, or Marquette and St. John's at the top? I'd absolutely say the latter. League needs shakeups, otherwise it gets stale.

Still a long way to go, but I'd say the OOC is already a success for St. John's. Getting to 11 wins puts us in a great position heading into Big East play. 12 would be excellent. 13 is pretty unlikely, but would put us in line for a top seed.

I've seen a lot of pessimistic posts from traditionally excellent teams (such as Xavier). I feel a lot of that stems from how their team is doing, rather than the conference itself.

This is the season a lot of us have been waiting for. At the end of the day, fans of individual teams care about how their team performs. Nobody is giving Wake Forest a crown for Duke's achievements.

A shakeup like this is great for the league. Nova and Xavier will return to traditional powers next year (or later this year). Teams like Providence and Creighton will rebound. DePaul should be better. Etc, etc.

You are missing NET.......0 - 0.....St. John's in Bracketology is a 9 seed.....

Vill and MU are in the 7 seed area.....

MU will be a 4 or 5 if they can beat Buffalo and go to 4 - 2 Quad 1 wins with NET.....(one of the best in the NCAA)

PS.....To all the millennials out there.....

Marquette Golden Eagles
Tournament Appearances: 32
Final Fours: 3
Championships: 1 (1977)

Georgetown and St. John's are similar.......Villanova is best.....3 wins.....other totals similar.....

PSS.....Top 10 NCAA money generated by B-ball.....

Don't sell us short it's 33 tournament invites .

[MullinMayhem]

Marquette, pleaseeeeeeee beat Buffalo. They need to come back down to earth. Cuse is nothing special this year just like most years in the regular season post Big East. West Virginia is down too. I think they're overrated and I hope you guys smash em. We need to takeover the entire Northeast on the map of undefeated teams.

[MUBoxer]

Marquette, pleaseeeeeeee beat Buffalo. They need to come back down to earth. Cuse is nothing special this year just like most years in the regular season post Big East. West Virginia is down too. I think they're overrated and I hope you guys smash em. We need to takeover the entire Northeast on the map of undefeated teams.

I don't think we match up well with them. We don't cause a lot of turnovers and that's their PGs biggest weakness meanwhile we love to throw the ball away at the slightest pressure and Buffalo loves to force turnovers.

[vtwarrior]

The issue I have is NET.....

Not St. Johns.....or anyone else.....

You misunderstand.....They have pushed the other metrics to the side......I personally think it is bull.....and has Big 5 conference manipulation written all over it.....

Think about it......Especially this year......

We are in a down year......

So when we get to conference.....and we all know how hard it is to win on the road in the Big East.....

If we have lets say 5 Quad 2 teams.....and the Quad 1 teams lose to them on the road......That will risk the amount of conference bids to the NCAA.....

Dare I say......We could be "manipulated" down to 3 bids.....

Throwing it out there......I personally think putting a system in place without testing it for a number a years on something that for all accounts was'nt broken.....

This smacks of the ACC wanting like 12 to 14 teams in the tourney.....There I said it!

[ecasadoSBU]

The conference has a 74.11% winning percentage in a year that is considered "down"...

I'll take that any day. 74.11% is significantly higher than the SEC 71.22%, the PAC12's 64.00%, American 71.43%, West Coast 64.91%... That means that on a down year the Big East is still better than 2/5 of the Football 5 Conferences

The only conferences with better winning percentages are the Big Ten with 79.53%, ACC with 78.26%, and Big12's 76.70%

The NET will sort itself out when the time comes! Just keep winning 3/4 of our games and stay above .500 against the F5 and we should be good