What Would It Take For JT3 To NOT Be Fired This Season

[stever20]

just looking-
I wouldn't call the loss to Monmouth as being ridiculous. One of those things where the labels are a joke. Monmouth was a darn good team last year. At the time of NCAA selection last year they were #69 in KP and #52 RPI. That's not in the same stratosphere as any of those other that you mention.

as far as the wins...
1st off let's put them in seasons not year they happened- kind of distorts things...
2016-17- Oregon
2015-16 Wisconsin(7 seed), Syracuse(10 seed)
2014-15- Florida(not all that great of win considering they finished sub .500), Indiana(10 seed)
2013-14- VCU(5 seed), Michigan St(4 seed)

so last 2 seasons, not beaten anyone that finished over a 7 seed OOC.

26-28 record now in the last 54 games.

[billyjack]

Also, final 15 team BE season:
... 2013 W vs UCLA.
... 2013 W vs Texas.
... 2013 W vs Tennessee.
... 2013 W vs Notre Dame, UConn, Louisville, Syracuse twice in blowouts, Cincinnati.
... 2013 L vs Indiana in OT.

I know that's 5 seasons ago, but I can't believe the guy forgot how to coach. Just so many close games against ranked opponents, resulting in both wins and losses. Recruiting is still good.

I mean, Bradley Hayes was on the team for the games in the 2013 season, so we're not talking ancient history here.

[NJRedman]

I haven't completely thought this through yet, but:

I'm really really rooting for JT3 to turn things around. Georgetown as a brand is huge for the Big East, and Thompson is that brand. It would suck to give that up unless the Hoyas totally and completely suck.

So, in recent years:

here are the negatives:
- unwatchable lazy performances in past week and past year.
- ridiculous losses vs Ark State in 2017, and Radford, Monmouth and Asheville 2016.

here are the positives:
- 5 minutes away from the Sweet 16 in 2015.
- NCAA win at underrated Eastern Washington.
- non-conference wins in last several years vs:
... 2017 Oregon
... 2016 Syracuse
... 2016 Wisconsin
... 2015 Michigan State
... 2015 Florida
... 2015 Indiana
... 2014 #10 VCU

Near misses:
... 2017 Maryland by 1.
... 2016 Duke by 2.
... 2016 Maryland by 4.
... 2016 UConn by 6.
... 2015 Wisconsin by 3.
... 2015 Kansas by 5.
... 2014 Oregon by 7 in a lopsided Korean gym.

My fear is if Georgetown loses JT3, we'll be faced with a Craig Escherik type head coach... Total Snoozeville... or a bore like Lappas in his Villanova years, Tim Welsh at PC, etc, zzzzz... I'd rather give JT3 a chance to right the ship.

OR they could lure a guy like Shaka Smart who has recruiting ties to the area from his time at VCU and would bring an exciting Havoc style to the program.

[stever20]

Also, final 15 team BE season:
... 2013 W vs UCLA.
... 2013 W vs Texas.
... 2013 W vs Tennessee.
... 2013 W vs Notre Dame, UConn, Louisville, Syracuse twice in blowouts, Cincinnati.
... 2013 L vs Indiana in OT.

I know that's 5 seasons ago, but I can't believe the guy forgot how to coach. Just so many close games against ranked opponents, resulting in both wins and losses. Recruiting is still good.

I mean, Bradley Hayes was on the team for the games in the 2013 season, so we're not talking ancient history here.

And all of that was done in the last year before the freedom of movement initiative came around. Since then, things have changed quite a bit in how games are called. In the 3 years of the NBE- Georgetown has been 9,9,10 in conference games in sending teams to the line. In 2013, Georgetown was 10, in a 15 team league.

[DudeAnon]

My fear is if Georgetown loses JT3, we'll be faced with a Craig Escherik type head coach... Total Snoozeville... or a bore like Lappas in his Villanova years, Tim Welsh at PC, etc, zzzzz... I'd rather give JT3 a chance to right the ship.

OR they could lure a guy like Shaka Smart who has recruiting ties to the area from his time at VCU and would bring an exciting Havoc style to the program.

There is a 0 percent chance they could get Shaka Smart. Heck, I don't think VCU's current coach would even consider it.

[billyjack]

I agree that Monmouth ended up being a good team.
Also, UNC Asheville made the NCAA's.

2016 season:
win over 10-seed Syracuse, which made the Final Four.
win over 7-seed Wisconsin, which made the Sweet 16.

The 2015 Florida win... at the time it was a significant win vs the #18 ranked team.
The 2015 Wisconsin loss... GU was up big with 8 minutes left against the then-#3 Badgers.

The Jekyll and Hyde quality of the Hoyas is just so shocking.

Also, right, good point that Shaka would've been a great replacement, but he's not moving from Texas at this point.

Who would be a good replacement for JT3 if it comes to that?

What coach could recruit like JT3 and get wins over ranked teams like he does, plus continue with the Georgetown brand? An ex-player would continue the brand, but why would any former Hoya want to replace a fired JT3? And who would it be anyway... Ewing needs seasoning and has less experience than Mullin.

No obvious candidate stands out... and the Georgetown job needs to go to a guy with some excitement value or else we as a conference would take a huge negative hit.
- Gregg Marshall would be the only guy with enough accomplishments, charisma (negative or otherwise) and entertainment value, but not sure he's a good fit for an East Coast school...
- Amaker sucks.
- Danny Hurley no way, terrible fit...
- Jacobson... snoozeville.
- Shaka, Howland, Drew, the Stephen F Austin guy... they all just moved...

[NJRedman]

My fear is if Georgetown loses JT3, we'll be faced with a Craig Escherik type head coach... Total Snoozeville... or a bore like Lappas in his Villanova years, Tim Welsh at PC, etc, zzzzz... I'd rather give JT3 a chance to right the ship.

OR they could lure a guy like Shaka Smart who has recruiting ties to the area from his time at VCU and would bring an exciting Havoc style to the program.

There is a 0 percent chance they could get Shaka Smart. Heck, I don't think VCU's current coach would even consider it.

Yeah, thats not true at all. Georgetown isn't DePaul. It's a big name in BBall in a great recruiting area.

[billyjack]

also, on Shaka Smart...

Texas just got smoked vs Northwestern by 19 and Colorado by 14.

Mixed bag last year, with win vs UNC, Washington and Stanford, but losses to Texas A&M, Michigan, UConn and Washington (played UW twice and split). Bounced in first round vs Northern Iowa.

Shaka recently in NCAA's:
2016 - L to Northern Iowa.
2015 - L to Ohio State in OT.
2014 - L to Stephen F Austin.
2013 - W vs Akron, L to Michigan.

So, a lot of Jekyll and Hyde with Shaka... seems like JT3 offers just as much or more.

[stever20]

I would take boring right now if it meant more wins. Which is better a boring team that wins, or a flashy team that is bi-polar. Give me the boring team every day of the week. I mean, Butler isn't exciting, but all they do is win with mind-numbing effectiveness.

[NJRedman]

also, on Shaka Smart...

Texas just got smoked vs Northwestern by 19 and Colorado by 14.

Mixed bag last year, with win vs UNC, Washington and Stanford, but losses to Texas A&M, Michigan, UConn and Washington (played UW twice and split). Bounced in first round vs Northern Iowa.

Shaka recently in NCAA's:
2016 - L to Northern Iowa.
2015 - L to Ohio State in OT.
2014 - L to Stephen F Austin.
2013 - W vs Akron, L to Michigan.

So, a lot of Jekyll and Hyde with Shaka... seems like JT3 offers just as much or more.

But he made the tournament the last 4 years, doing so in 3 different conferences. Not quite the same