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Re: Doug Gottlieb is a Dumbass

Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:59 pm

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stever20 wrote:I was looking at the polls to see about NC State and something amazed me. How in the hell did NC State get 0 votes in the coaches polls? They got the 7th most receiving votes in AP. Pretty fair you would think with all the incoming guys they have. But 32 other teams got votes besides the top 25 in the coaches polls, with NC State got none of them. That's surprising.

The receiving votes for the AP poll is deceiving since somebody voted them 8th I he country when the next closest was 21st and only 5 people putting them in their top 25 in general.

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/


that's still 6/65 or 10%. 32 voters in coaches you would expected 3 with that percentage. So it's kind of a surprise. Especially given the coaches had 7 more different teams getting votes compared to the AP poll.
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Postby marquette » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:29 am

SJHooper wrote:Huh? Looks like he picked Creighton to beat NC State, what's the problem?


He called it an upset when Creighton is generally believed to be the superior team this year, by basically all the experts.
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Re: Doug Gottlieb is a Dumbass

Postby JohnW22 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:51 am

stever20 wrote:
JohnW22 wrote:The receiving votes for the AP poll is deceiving since somebody voted them 8th I he country when the next closest was 21st and only 5 people putting them in their top 25 in general.

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/


that's still 6/65 or 10%. 32 voters in coaches you would expected 3 with that percentage. So it's kind of a surprise. Especially given the coaches had 7 more different teams getting votes compared to the AP poll.

Or maybe the coaches has realized it's the same thing every year with Mark Gottfried...get good recruits...be a dissapointment throughout the regular season...maybe make the tournament... Then the players go pro or transfer...I would love to know how many players transferred out of that program in the past 5 years
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Postby SJHooper » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:27 pm

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SJHooper wrote:Huh? Looks like he picked Creighton to beat NC State, what's the problem?


He called it an upset when Creighton is generally believed to be the superior team this year, by basically all the experts.


Ohhh I gotcha....I wouldn't really read too much into that though NC State is a good program lately and I doubt it will be an easy win for Creighton, though I still expect them to get the W one way or another.
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Postby SCS » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:55 pm

marquette wrote:
SJHooper wrote:Huh? Looks like he picked Creighton to beat NC State, what's the problem?


He called it an upset when Creighton is generally believed to be the superior team this year, by basically all the experts.


I mean Creighton starts at 32 on Kenpom and NC State is at 35, it's basically a toss-up game.
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Postby stever20 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:57 pm

I think to casual fans, Creighton beating NC State would be an upset. I'm not saying it's right- but that's just reality.
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Postby beltwaybluejay » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:10 pm

If you are the higher ranked team in a "tossup" game and you win . . . that's an upset?
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Postby BEhomer » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:17 pm

stever20 wrote:I think to casual fans, Creighton beating NC State would be an upset. I'm not saying it's right- but that's just reality.


I think you just made the case for this thread. it is to CASUAL fans. Gottlieb is a so-called expert. He should know better.
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Re: Doug Gottlieb is a Dumbass

Postby stever20 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:27 pm

BEhomer wrote:
stever20 wrote:I think to casual fans, Creighton beating NC State would be an upset. I'm not saying it's right- but that's just reality.


I think you just made the case for this thread. it is to CASUAL fans. Gottlieb is a so-called expert. He should know better.

But who is he writing the column for? Experts or casual fans.
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Re: Doug Gottlieb is a Dumbass

Postby marquette » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:02 pm

stever20 wrote:
BEhomer wrote:
stever20 wrote:I think to casual fans, Creighton beating NC State would be an upset. I'm not saying it's right- but that's just reality.


I think you just made the case for this thread. it is to CASUAL fans. Gottlieb is a so-called expert. He should know better.

But who is he writing the column for? Experts or casual fans.


Professional writers have a responsibility to educate their audience, not reinforce their incorrect preconceptions.
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