Updated 1/29 bracketology

[GumbyDamnit!]

Stever, estimated seed positioning could have some relevance to some people, however, estimating match ups right now is laughable. Hell, estimating matchups even on the day before selection Sunday rarely work out.

Just a waste of time and not thread worthy.

...And then breaking down the hypothetical matchups to point out how SHU would struggle vs. Texas is downright idiotic. Then posting a series of hypothetical matchups of dozens of teams is....(running out of negative adjectives).... anyone?

[ecasadoSBU]

well lets do it like this...
PC 4 seed...
13 seeds are UC Irvine, Stony Brook, South Dakota St, San Diego St
5 seeds are Kentucky, Louisville, Purdue, Dayton
12 seeds are VCU, Chattanooga, UALR, PIG winner

...

Stever, I have no doubt that my alma mater can easily beat Providence... That would be a terrible matchup for PC

Seriously though? Who the heck cares about this potential matchups at this point?

Thanks can change so much from here till March. More than a month removed from the NCAA

[BEX]

X would love to get the Dukies. revenge for '04.

[adoraz]

Stever I know you like numbers so here's one to investigate: the odds these matchups actually take place.

Once you realize it's close to zero you'll see why I think talking about this is pointless.

[xusandy]

Yeah, yeah, it's never gonna happen this way, but what I find interesting is the lack of clear difference between the top line seeds and the rest of the pack. The teams Palm has at the 8/9 seeds are St Mary's, Cal, Texas Tech, Butler, Notre Dame, Duke, Washington, and Indiana. Any of those teams could beat a 1 or 2 seed and it wouldn't be considered a HUGE upset. Heck, 3 of the 8/9 seeds were in the AP top 25 this week. In a season with so many good teams, and no truly great ones, early round wins in the dance are definitely not going to be a piece of cake. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the Final 4 includes ZERO 1 seeds.

[PorthosPA]

I just want a few things out of the rest of this season:

1. Xavier to win out.
2. Nova to win out (except the X game).
3. For X and Nova to meet in the conference championship game and whoever wins the game to do it on a buzzer beater.
4. Both teams to get 1 seeds.
5. Both teams to get to the Final 4 and legitimize the conference to outside eyes.

If Butler could go on one of their tourney runs and join them, that would be great too (or any other conference member).

Is that too much to ask?

[XtoDC]

Right now- PC being a 4 seed is about best case scenario for them. That's not a fictional scenario at all.

Just looking at bracket matrix with all brackets done yesterday(16 of them)....
Nova 1.1875
Xavier 1.5
PC 5.5
Butler 10.42
Seton Hall 11.36

I'm not saying that's what definitely will happen- but what Palm has is pretty close to a best case scenario seed wise(though Butler would GLADLY IMO take being a 10 over a 8 or 9 quite frankly).

You can act like PC being a 4 or 5 is fiction, but given ALL of their metrics, that's very realistic right now.

Butler has done well from that position before, and in a year where there isn't an extremely strong upper class the 8/9 line shouldn't be as feared as it normally would be. Normally I would prefer the top of the league to be really strong because of what we're used to, but this year is so much different with the talent spread out. More teams in the tourney this year is probably a better result just because of how the year is going.

In a normal year I would absolutely agree that stronger teams are more important, but this year no one is scared of anyone. It is going to be absolute madness once the tournament starts. It should be very exciting for the average fan.

[stever20]

Saw Lunardi did no bracket but a seed list(which I find better anyways)...
Nova 4
Xavier 5
Prov 14
Butler 38(one of last 4 byes)
S Hall 48(last team in)
was done about 530 last night- so before last nights action....
doesn't seem to have the first 4 out so don't know where the Hoyas stand with him.... was in the next 4 out on Monday....