Which year of Big East better?

[jaxalum]

If Creighton, Marquette and Seton Hall can get home wins versus the likes of Villanova, Providence and Butler, you will be looking at 6 bids.

My question is what two or three teams have the best chance of grabbing that 5th bid. As of last week, everyone was really high on Seton Hall but they lost a game they needed to stay on track, or so that seemed to be the overwhelming opinion on the board.

FIne, what teams do I need to be pulling for that realistically have the best chance of grabbing that 5th bid? I think six is unrealistic, even for the most eternally optimistic of us (unless a team out of nowhere wins the auto bid).

Edit: After doing a little research, this is what it looks like: Seton Hall, Marquette, Georgetown, Creighton, in that order. Opinions?

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[stever20]

If Creighton, Marquette and Seton Hall can get home wins versus the likes of Villanova, Providence and Butler, you will be looking at 6 bids.

My question is what two or three teams have the best chance of grabbing that 5th bid. As of last week, everyone was really high on Seton Hall but they lost a game they needed to stay on track, or so that seemed to be the overwhelming opinion on the board.

FIne, what teams do I need to be pulling for that realistically have the best chance of grabbing that 5th bid? I think six is is unrealistic, even for the most eternally optimistic of us (unless a team out of nowhere wins the auto bid).

Just looking.
Seton Hall. 14 games left, need to go 7-7 probably. 7 ranked games left.
Creighton. 14 games left. Need to go 8-6 probably. 7 ranked games left.
Marquette. 15 games left(1 OOC). Need to go 9-6 probably. 7 ranked games left.
Georgetown. 15 games left(1 OOC with UConn). Need to go 8-7 probably. 8 ranked games left.

I would guess Seton Hall/Georgetown probably right now have the best shot.

[Bluejay]

I'm going to wait until after the tourney to answer this poll.

If we "only" get four, but all four make it to the second weekend, this season will be significantly better. Frankly, I think our conference at this point benefits more from some deep tourney runs than we do from a ton of teams getting in. NCAA unit money will turn out the same either way.

I think we may well still be looking at 5 this year, but the fifth might end up playing on Tuesday in Dayton.

[whiteandblue77]

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That right there is why this season rocks. Right now 4 solidly in, The Hall with an 11 and three very good teams, Georgetown, Marquette and Creighton receiving votes within 10 spots of each other. Any one or two could replace the Pirates for 5 or 6 bids. That's 8 teams very much alive, battling tooth and nail while DePaul and St. Johns are in rebuilding mode, will be ready to vie for bids next year and can pee in people's cheerios like they did with GW and Cuse. Good year so far.

[stever20]

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That right there is why this season rocks. Right now 4 solidly in, The Hall with an 11 and three very good teams, Georgetown, Marquette and Creighton receiving votes within 10 spots of each other. Any one or two could replace the Pirates for 5 or 6 bids. Basically 8 teams very much alive while DePaul and St. Johns are in rebuilding mode, will be ready to vie for bids next year.

Seton Hall EXTREMELY deceiving on this. Of the 23 brackets that were done yesterday, they were barely on half.
Marquette on 1 bracket yesterday
Georgetown none
Creighton on 3 yesterday

[marquette]

Tough question. Honestly, I'd like to know what the recruiting value of a bid is. My opinion is that perception and money are secondary to recruiting and I think the more teams we have that can use that card the more the conference will grow. The tourney is a crapshoot unless you have one of those transcendent teams.

[GumbyDamnit!]

A NICE LINK TO CHECK WHERE OUR TEAMS STAND: http://www.bracketmatrix.com

That right there is why this season rocks. Right now 4 solidly in, The Hall with an 11 and three very good teams, Georgetown, Marquette and Creighton receiving votes within 10 spots of each other. Any one or two could replace the Pirates for 5 or 6 bids. Basically 8 teams very much alive while DePaul and St. Johns are in rebuilding mode, will be ready to vie for bids next year.

Seton Hall EXTREMELY deceiving on this. Of the 23 brackets that were done yesterday, they were barely on half.
Marquette on 1 bracket yesterday
Georgetown none
Creighton on 3 yesterday

And right on cue...

Death, taxes and Stever setting the proper expectations on a BIG EAST message board.

[stever20]

Bracket Matrix site is a good one- but can be extremely deceiving. They have 46 brackets right now... going all the way back to the 5th...

23 were done yesterday. Of those 23 Seton Hall was on 12 of them.
9 were done on Sunday Of those 9 Seton Hall was on 4 of them.
So of the 32 that were done since the last Seton Hall game, Seton Hall was on 16 of them.
of the other 14 that were done before the last Seton Hall game, Seton Hall was on all of them.

So you tell me, which group is more representative of where Seton Hall stands right now?

[Rum_Ham]

This year is far better and it's not close. I feel that our top 4 all have the ability and expectation to make the second weekend. Also, the big east will at least get 5 teams in the tournament, one of Creighton, Georgetown, Seton Hall, or Marquette will separate themselves at some point. I would also argue that these four teams are better than they were last year and could win a game or two depending on the match up.

[stever20]

This year is far better and it's not close. I feel that our top 4 all have the ability and expectation to make the second weekend. Also, the big east will at least get 5 teams in the tournament, one of Creighton, Georgetown, Seton Hall, or Marquette will separate themselves at some point. I would also argue that these four teams are better than they were last year and could win a game or two depending on the match up.

It's no lock at all that Big East gets 5...
Seton Hall. 14 games left, need to go 7-7 probably. 7 ranked games left.
Creighton. 14 games left. Need to go 8-6 probably. 7 ranked games left.
Marquette. 15 games left(1 OOC). Need to go 9-6 probably. 7 ranked games left.
Georgetown. 15 games left(1 OOC with UConn). Need to go 8-7 probably. 8 ranked games left.

like tonight is a HUGE game for Creighton. If they lose to PC they would need to go 8-5. With 3 games left vs DePaul/St John's. So 5-5 in those other 10 games, with 6 of them against the ranked teams.

Also and saw someone mention this somewhere- if one of those 4 does get in, they'll be almost certainly playing in the First 4.