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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby stever20 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:28 am

gofriars08 wrote:Eh, do it without those two for two years and watch the BE wipe the floor with that poseur conference. Bill Walton might have a heart attack and Dave us all from further pain listening to his drivel about how great the Pac12 is.


problem there is it'd be in some ways a no win situation for us. win and we don't get much credit. lose, and for a decent number of games- it's a bad loss...

The other 10 teams average only 3 tourney bids a year. This year- it's possible only Utah gets a bid.
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby NJRedman » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:36 pm

We had a home/away with UCLA just a few years ago. We split the series with each team winning at home. I live in LA now so I'd love to see SJU traveling to play either UCLA or USC out here. Preferably UCLA since they are the bigger name in BBall and the history with Lavin.
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby TheBasketballOpinion » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:14 pm

Last thing I heard regarding this challenge series is what VU Hoops was reporting back in like June

http://www.vuhoops.com/big-east-news/20 ... mes-to-non

Fox Sports 1 is reportedly working to broker more early-season "challenge"-type arrangements for the Big East with major conferences, similar to the Gavitt Tipoff series that was arranged with the Big Ten. According to the Providence Journal report, the broadcaster has been working to broker a similar partnership between the Pac-12 and Big East.


http://www.providencejournal.com/sports ... etball.ece

the Big East has tabled any expansion talk and clearly won’t be growing beyond 10 members anytime soon. The reasons are simple: 10 is the perfect basketball scheduling number, the 10-member Big 12 has shown that that number of schools can work splendidly in hoops, and TV partner Fox isn’t demanding any change in inventory.
What PC’s Driscoll says the league is planning on doing is juicing up Fox’s offerings in the nonconference portion of the season. The recently announced Gavitt Tipoff series with the Big Ten is a great start, and sources said Fox was working to broker a similar partnership between the Pac 12 and Big East.
“Instead of expanding, we want to emphasize playing more high-profile games that will help us with TV and get more teams into the NCAA Tournament,” Driscoll said.
The Big East isn’t too small to succeed in basketball. It just had a very average first season with only four teams — Villanova, Creighton, Xavier, PC — making the NCAA Tournament. But Georgetown and Marquette won’t stay down for long. The 10-school Big 12 offered the perfect template last season by finishing first in the RPI with seven top-50 teams and earning seven NCAA bids.
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby R Jay » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:18 pm

I'd rather we have a challenge with the Big 12 than the PAC-12, even if Arizona and UCLA were to participate.
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby NJRedman » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:48 pm

R Jay wrote:I'd rather we have a challenge with the Big 12 than the PAC-12, even if Arizona and UCLA were to participate.


Meh, as an east coaster i'm more interested in playing teams on the west coast than in Texas, OK or Kansas.
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby Make Your Bones » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:46 pm

This would never happen, but I'd love a series with the ACC. As a Nova fan, I still have some bad blood with them stealing Syracuse & co, and I'd love to see that play out on the court.
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby Jet915 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:50 pm

R Jay wrote:I'd rather we have a challenge with the Big 12 than the PAC-12, even if Arizona and UCLA were to participate.


Maybe cause I live on the west coast but I'd rather have the PAC-12. Add exposure to the west coast instead of places like Manhattan Kansas and Lubbock Texas.
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby NJRedman » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:58 pm

Jet915 wrote:
R Jay wrote:I'd rather we have a challenge with the Big 12 than the PAC-12, even if Arizona and UCLA were to participate.


Maybe cause I live on the west coast but I'd rather have the PAC-12. Add exposure to the west coast instead of places like Manhattan Kansas and Lubbock Texas.


I agree 100%! As a new west coaster i'd love to get a chance to see my team play out here as well as the exposure out west compared to cow towns in the middle of nowhere. Morgantown? Lubbock? Manhattan (KS)? Waco? No thanks!
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby stever20 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:26 am

R Jay wrote:I'd rather we have a challenge with the Big 12 than the PAC-12, even if Arizona and UCLA were to participate.

I agree with you. The Big 12 is light years better than the Pac 12. Especially if you take out Arizona and UCLA. You take those 2 out- it's a no brainer.
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Re: Pac 12 Challenge

Postby DudeAnon » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:45 am

The more challenges the better, but obviously shoot for the top dogs first.

1. B12: An absolute beast of a conference, matches up with 10 teams. I think Fox owns some of it, so could have some pull
2. ACC: Another beast of a conference, a lot of old rivalries plus ACC wants to play in MSG and DC. Problem is ACC schools don't like to play away from home for OOC.
3. B10: Already have a challenge with them, so good to go here.
4. PAC12: Meh, better than nothing.
5: SEC: I honestly don't know if this one would even be worth it. It really is UK and the dwarves.

I don't know all the intricacies about what makes a March resume, but I hate the early season guarantee games. They mean nothing and it just falsely inflates someones record. I would like to see tougher schedules for the entire conference, whether that is through challenges or tourneys is fine.
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