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Re: And so it begins...

Postby DumpsterFireA10 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:20 pm

Really kinda surprised at some of the answers here. I honestly thought Xavier fans would collectively say F the A-10. Y'all earned this awesome opportunity.

I don't wish anything bad on any school, I just hate the A-10 conference. Of course, being the second most disliked team in the league has something to do with that too.
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Postby Xudash » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:38 pm

DumpsterFireA10 wrote:Really kinda surprised at some of the answers here. I honestly thought Xavier fans would collectively say F the A-10. Y'all earned this awesome opportunity.

I don't wish anything bad on any school, I just hate the A-10 conference. Of course, being the second most disliked team in the league has something to do with that too.


Perhaps some of us have memories and perspective - - which is not to be taken as a dig to your response. Seriously, the long view of Xavier's time in the A10 has to be taken into consideration.

The C7 may look at it differently, but the A10 was a force when Xavier joined it. UMass was #1 in the nation that year. Chaney was still at Temple. It was a major step up for Xavier in the mid-90's, and Xavier earned its invite through performance. There was a time, before the Big East really got going with football expansion, that the A10 was pulling closer to the Big East in performance.

Overall, the A10 treated Xavier well as Xavier held up its end of the bargain for the A10. As things evolved beyond 2000, Xavier saw the need to become stronger and sustain success, in the belief that it would eventually get its chance. There was a time after our first E8, continuing with subsequent trips to the S16, combined with receiving the Forbes ranking, that I could only shake my head at the notion that people would pigeon-hole basketball programs based upon football affiliations, but it was what it was.

Nonetheless, Xavier was able to demonstrate its value to the C7 through what was accomplished in the A10. I'll always be grateful to the A10 for such a mutually beneficial relationship, as I would remember a mutually beneficial business relationship that fell by the wayside for whatever reason.
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Re: And so it begins...

Postby DumpsterFireA10 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:06 am

Xudash wrote:
DumpsterFireA10 wrote:Really kinda surprised at some of the answers here. I honestly thought Xavier fans would collectively say F the A-10. Y'all earned this awesome opportunity.

I don't wish anything bad on any school, I just hate the A-10 conference. Of course, being the second most disliked team in the league has something to do with that too.


Perhaps some of us have memories and perspective - - which is not to be taken as a dig to your response. Seriously, the long view of Xavier's time in the A10 has to be taken into consideration.

The C7 may look at it differently, but the A10 was a force when Xavier joined it. UMass was #1 in the nation that year. Chaney was still at Temple. It was a major step up for Xavier in the mid-90's, and Xavier earned its invite through performance. There was a time, before the Big East really got going with football expansion, that the A10 was pulling closer to the Big East in performance.

Overall, the A10 treated Xavier well as Xavier held up its end of the bargain for the A10. As things evolved beyond 2000, Xavier saw the need to become stronger and sustain success, in the belief that it would eventually get its chance. There was a time after our first E8, continuing with subsequent trips to the S16, combined with receiving the Forbes ranking, that I could only shake my head at the notion that people would pigeon-hole basketball programs based upon football affiliations, but it was what it was.

Nonetheless, Xavier was able to demonstrate its value to the C7 through what was accomplished in the A10. I'll always be grateful to the A10 for such a mutually beneficial relationship, as I would remember a mutually beneficial business relationship that fell by the wayside for whatever reason.


I guess when you view the relationship as mutually beneficial, I'd grant you that. I don't see my school's relationship with the A-10 benefiting us at all, so I'm kind of down on it.

I know you aren't taking shots Dash. One of my buddies is a mod on the A-10 board..so I've seen many posts from you.
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Re: And so it begins...

Postby XU85 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:18 am

Xudash wrote:
DumpsterFireA10 wrote:Really kinda surprised at some of the answers here. I honestly thought Xavier fans would collectively say F the A-10. Y'all earned this awesome opportunity.

I don't wish anything bad on any school, I just hate the A-10 conference. Of course, being the second most disliked team in the league has something to do with that too.


Perhaps some of us have memories and perspective - - which is not to be taken as a dig to your response. Seriously, the long view of Xavier's time in the A10 has to be taken into consideration.

The C7 may look at it differently, but the A10 was a force when Xavier joined it. UMass was #1 in the nation that year. Chaney was still at Temple. It was a major step up for Xavier in the mid-90's, and Xavier earned its invite through performance. There was a time, before the Big East really got going with football expansion, that the A10 was pulling closer to the Big East in performance.

Overall, the A10 treated Xavier well as Xavier held up its end of the bargain for the A10. As things evolved beyond 2000, Xavier saw the need to become stronger and sustain success, in the belief that it would eventually get its chance. There was a time after our first E8, continuing with subsequent trips to the S16, combined with receiving the Forbes ranking, that I could only shake my head at the notion that people would pigeon-hole basketball programs based upon football affiliations, but it was what it was.

Nonetheless, Xavier was able to demonstrate its value to the C7 through what was accomplished in the A10. I'll always be grateful to the A10 for such a mutually beneficial relationship, as I would remember a mutually beneficial business relationship that fell by the wayside for whatever reason.


This post sums up most of my feelings regrading the A-10. The only problem was the bottom feeders. The top teams competed well. Good luck to your Billikens this year!
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Re: And so it begins...

Postby DumpsterFireA10 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:05 pm

XU85 wrote:
Xudash wrote:
DumpsterFireA10 wrote:Really kinda surprised at some of the answers here. I honestly thought Xavier fans would collectively say F the A-10. Y'all earned this awesome opportunity.

I don't wish anything bad on any school, I just hate the A-10 conference. Of course, being the second most disliked team in the league has something to do with that too.


Perhaps some of us have memories and perspective - - which is not to be taken as a dig to your response. Seriously, the long view of Xavier's time in the A10 has to be taken into consideration.

The C7 may look at it differently, but the A10 was a force when Xavier joined it. UMass was #1 in the nation that year. Chaney was still at Temple. It was a major step up for Xavier in the mid-90's, and Xavier earned its invite through performance. There was a time, before the Big East really got going with football expansion, that the A10 was pulling closer to the Big East in performance.

Overall, the A10 treated Xavier well as Xavier held up its end of the bargain for the A10. As things evolved beyond 2000, Xavier saw the need to become stronger and sustain success, in the belief that it would eventually get its chance. There was a time after our first E8, continuing with subsequent trips to the S16, combined with receiving the Forbes ranking, that I could only shake my head at the notion that people would pigeon-hole basketball programs based upon football affiliations, but it was what it was.

Nonetheless, Xavier was able to demonstrate its value to the C7 through what was accomplished in the A10. I'll always be grateful to the A10 for such a mutually beneficial relationship, as I would remember a mutually beneficial business relationship that fell by the wayside for whatever reason.


This post sums up most of my feelings regrading the A-10. The only problem was the bottom feeders. The top teams competed well. Good luck to your Billikens this year!


Thanks good sir. Will be SLU's first independent year since the pre-Valley days. Well, not quite...

Xavier will make noise in the BE too.
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Re: And so it begins...

Postby TrueBlueJay » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:12 pm

I thought I would root for the MVC, but now that the season has started I found myself rooting for them to lose (minus Drake, as I have a couple of friends who are fans of Drake).
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Re: And so it begins...

Postby butlerguy03 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:52 pm

I could care less about the A-10. The Horizon League seems so long ago...really. I'm indifferent on both fronts I guess. Butler's old rivals Valpo & Detroit are still there and will probably dominate the league. This is why I really don't care what they do right now:

from:
UW-Green Bay
UW-Milwaukee
UIC
Detroit
Youngstown St.
Cleveland St.
Valparaiso
Loyola

to:
Georgetown
Villanova
Marquette
Creighton
Xavier
Seton Hall
St. John's
Providence
DePaul
Butler University '03
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Re: And so it begins...

Postby DumpsterFireA10 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:06 pm

butlerguy03 wrote:I could care less about the A-10. The Horizon League seems so long ago...really. I'm indifferent on both fronts I guess. Butler's old rivals Valpo & Detroit are still there and will probably dominate the league. This is why I really don't care what they do right now:

from:
UW-Green Bay
UW-Milwaukee
UIC
Detroit
Youngstown St.
Cleveland St.
Valparaiso
Loyola

to:
Georgetown
Villanova
Marquette
Creighton
Xavier
Seton Hall
St. John's
Providence
DePaul


Butler has been quite the rise. As for the bolded part, the rest of the country agrees with you.
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Re: And so it begins...

Postby xsteve1 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:22 pm

I'll root for the teams in the A10 who should be considered for expansion when and if the Big East expands (SLU, VCU and Richmond). Would like to see URI do well and have a Big East school land Hurley down the road.
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